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Wayne Couzens admits raping and kidnapping Sarah Everard *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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MyGhastIsFlabbered · 08/06/2021 10:19

Sorry, couldn't find the news topic. This has just made me so angry today. What is it with make entitlement? They think they can just do what they want with us women?

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MyGhastIsFlabbered · 08/06/2021 10:19

*male not make. Argh

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IntermittentParps · 08/06/2021 10:22

I don't understand what is meant when they say he accepted responsibility for killing her, but wasn't asked to enter a plea to her murder. Initially he was charged with murder.

Kitchentop · 08/06/2021 10:24

I think it may have something to do with him being medically assessed

Silhillian · 08/06/2021 10:24

Absolute bastard. What is wrong with men.

SecondRow · 08/06/2021 10:26

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/08/sarah-everard-death-serving-met-pc-wayne-couzens-pleads-guilty/

He has pleaded guilty to kidnap and rape.

He has not entered a plea on charge of murder (was not asked to enter a plea).

Does this mean he will still face trial on the charge of murder?

Violetroselily · 08/06/2021 10:26

Re the murder charge....perhaps he will try to plea manslaughter?

TerribleCustomerCervix · 08/06/2021 10:26

Strength to Sarah’s friends and family throughout the trial- I can’t imagine how hard this will be for them

ApolloandDaphne · 08/06/2021 10:26

I suspect he knows they have the evidence to convict him of her abduction and rape but not enough at the moment to convict him of her murder so he won't accept responsibility for that. He may plead in the future or it may go to court for the murder if they believe they have enough evidence.

Violetroselily · 08/06/2021 10:27

Ah that tele link says pending medical reports so yes maybe going to please manslaughter and diminished responsibility?

What an utter cunt of a man.

RIP Sarah

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 08/06/2021 10:27

Is he going to say he accidentally killed her?

Kitchentop · 08/06/2021 10:27

The court heard he also accepted responsibility for killing Ms Everard but did not enter a plea on the charge of murder.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57399170

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/06/2021 10:28

the trial is still,set for October, and may be less distressing as he has pleaded guilty to kidnap and rape.

It looks as if the trial might be mainly about premeditated murder or manslaughter

LadyDanburysHat · 08/06/2021 10:30

Do we know if he was known to her, or was it just a random attack? It's just horrific, and I do feel for her family sitting through this.

SecondRow · 08/06/2021 10:31

A plea hearing was previously set for 9 July so that is when he will have to enter a plea to the murder charge, I take it.

Kitchentop · 08/06/2021 10:32

I also feel for his wife and small children
Imagine growing up knowing what your dad is capable of...

EvilPea · 08/06/2021 10:34

@LadyDanburysHat

Do we know if he was known to her, or was it just a random attack? It's just horrific, and I do feel for her family sitting through this.
I don't think there was a prior link.

I’m happy to be corrected as I know there were rumours at the time flying around that he’d used his police badge to get her in the car but I think they were just rumours.

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/06/2021 10:38

There have been no reports whatsoever that they were known to each other - you can't prove a negative, but that's an obvious point for the police to have investigated thoroughly.

And he'll have to plead at some point on murder or a different charge for the killing, which he admits. And that will probably be at a hearing before the trial date set for October. They may well still have the July date in the calendar, but it could be at another time (just as today's hearing was new scheduling)

Pyewackect · 08/06/2021 10:38

He’s a violent criminal. That’s not entitlement. That’s a life sentence behind bars, hopefully. But it does raise the question of our legal system when Colin Pitchfork can walk free. That is a gross injustice. Life should mean life. Altho in my opinion be deserved to be on the end of a rope.

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2021 10:40

@Kitchentop

I also feel for his wife and small children Imagine growing up knowing what your dad is capable of...
I always think about this when things like this happen. Obviously my heart goes out to Sarah’s family but it must be very hard for his family too and I hope they are also supported.
ComDummings · 08/06/2021 10:40

Yes he will enter a plea eventually but they’re awaiting medical reports I believe

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MyGhastIsFlabbered · 08/06/2021 10:42

Sorry misread the news - admits raping and kidnapping but not killing...so it was a coincidence he kidnapped and raped her and somebody else killed her? Hmm

What a cunt of a man - putting her family and friends through this and not admitting what he did. Whether he meant to or not she's dead because of him.

DP and I were talking only this weekend about men's attitudes towards women - he can't get his head around it because he actually sees me as an equal rather than someone to just treat however he feels like. He'd never heard of 'the hole's the goal' or 'you don't look at the mantelpiece while stoking the fire' and was appalled by it. He'd also never heard of 'pigging'.

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Vikingintraining · 08/06/2021 10:46

Sorry misread the news - admits raping and kidnapping but not killing...so it was a coincidence he kidnapped and raped her and somebody else killed her?

He has admitted responsibility for her death but was not asked to enter a plea, pending medical reports. There will be a hearing in July for that.

IntermittentParps · 08/06/2021 10:46

I think it may have something to do with him being medically assessed

Ah yes, thanks, I'd forgotten that.

EvilPea · 08/06/2021 11:05

@Kitchentop

I also feel for his wife and small children Imagine growing up knowing what your dad is capable of...
I agree. Poor woman and children. Forever living in the shadow of what he’s done. I hope they are doing ok.
June2021 · 08/06/2021 11:11

@Silhillian

Absolute bastard. What is wrong with men.
He is a man. He is a sick or evil man (whichever you think).

The vast majority of men don't rape and kill. What is wrong with 'some' men.