ADs shelter in The Sleeping Swans and have a group hug

[BogRollBOGOF]

Another installment in the saga.

Maybe following up with an Indian, Korma please, but protect the naans...

France is becoming scary! Macron says ‘Be vaccinated or stay at home’ on live tv! At the same time he decreed that from the start of August, unvaccinated people will not be able to enter shopping centres, restaurants (even outside), cafes, cinemas, theatres, any leisure places with a higher capacity than 50, trains, coaches and planes. You will also need a covid passport to enter doctors, dentists and medical centres and hospitals. This is after he said in December that their version of the covid passport would NEVER be required for areas of everyday life.
Vaccination is not being forced according to him because you can have a ‘green’ light on your covid passport if you have a covid test every 48-72 hours to ensure you could still access these places. However, these previously free of charge tests will no longer be free .
Vaccination is obligatory for all care home staff and nurses and doctors, in fact there is a list of 72 public facing professions where obligatory vaccination is coming into effect by September. Failure to comply will mean you lose your job and will not be entitled to any state assistance.

And if all that wasn’t scary enough…..fellow AD’s I give you the verified fact that members of the police and gendarmerie will not be obligated to be vaccinated and will not have to present a covid passport to access daily life! I mean, wtaf?
So aware are the government that what they are doing is so very wrong and will likely cause civil unrest that they’ve made sure to keep the police on side to help beat the crowds back from their offices.
It’s like something out of dystopian film and yet it’s all true and it’s all actually happening. We really are living through scary times and we really need good to defeat evil right now .

@Lostinacloud macron really is pushing for riots so that he can use brute force to quell the population.

It’s so beyond imagining that this has all happened within 2 years.

Unbelievable.

And we know what type of man joins the police force in England so I can’t imagine it’s any different in France.

It's all so utterly disproportionate.
I just can't grasp why governments with a long history of stable democracy are ploughing in this direction.

@BogRollBOGOF me neither. It’s scary

So what are we going to do? From Reuters:

Britain has suffered the world’s seventh highest death toll from COVID-19, with over 128,000 fatalities.
The report, commissioned by the government in 2019, urges food education to be central to the national curriculum, and for food standards to be protected in any new trade deals.
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According to the report poor diets contribute to around 64,000 deaths every year in England alone and cost the economy about 74 billion pounds ($102 billion).

So more lives than covid, more costly than covid, probably if the will and willingness to see this as a long term fix was there, easier to fix than covid.

Unfortunately we live in a world that wants instant results and votes.

I don’t understand it either @BogRollBOGOF, which is what makes one sway towards believing some of the conspiracy theories because the reaction and continued control and force seems way over proportionate for a virus. Especially as the virus rarely affects the under 50’s severely and everyone over 50 has been protected by a vaccine. I also don’t understand the scramble to get every last human vaccinated. Why doesn’t natural immunity count if applicable and since it doesn’t seem the vaccine has any effect on case numbers, why would it make sense to treat the vaccinated any differently? Herd immunity will not stop a virus mutating and some scientists actually think mass vaccinating into a pandemic could cause a vaccine evading mutation that wouldn’t previously have naturally occurred.

I just hope beyond hope that the lawyers apparently working in the background blow this all open sooner rather than later or enough people kick off to break the control cycle.

The biggest problem as I see it is that most vaccinated people won’t be bothered by these massive moves being made to control people beyond any previously believed level because it doesn’t effect them at the moment. They can just flash their vaccination certificate and live life relatively normally for now. For the governments driving through these changes, the more people vaccinated equals the more people compliant and not rioting while it all takes place. It’s utterly horrific.

I hope that those who are vaccinated will take a stand. I am planning to do this, and will not go to restaurants etc that ask to see any pass, will use the lft route to enter events and inform the organisers, and will make damn sure that those businesses that lose my money will know it, so walk up, flash pass and then tell them why I am not going in.

Anyone who cares about bodily autonomy needs to do this. We need to have our voices heard, and as a Druid friend once told me, “in a capitalist economy, every pound is a vote so use your votes wisely”.

Wise words from that druid!
I'm vaccinated but horrified at the idea of having to prove it all the time. I have certainly avoided places who have mandated masks over and above the legal requirement.

Reading French news this morning hundreds protested so millions didn't. Thousand's protested in London but millions didn't. We're fooked aren't we

Salt and sugar tax on news now 🙄

With the NHS white paper zooming ahead removing statutory care for all. The obese are gonna be hit ditto elderly

Zuby tweeted a while back that taking care of your health and keeping fit was becoming an act of rebellion.

@justasking111

With the NHS white paper zooming ahead removing statutory care for all. The obese are gonna be hit ditto elderly

I wonder how many of those calling for the unvaccinated to be denied healthcare will fall into that category?

People will get angry when they find out lockdown didnt "protect the NHS" at all.

@mercybooth I think a lot of people won’t notice the removal of the nhs for a few years until they need it. By then anger will be too late.

Centralised free at point of use healthcare, with everyone contributing according to ability is a great idea. But somehow we have ended up with a mismanaged inefficient behemoth that is not fit for purpose. We need a time machine to go back to the start and let the creators know so they can adjust the model to include allowances for human behaviours.

@Worldgonecrazy The thread i started about it isnt moving anywhere as quickly as the ones about masks. They are obsessed with bloody masks. So as far as im concerned ppl like that will get the health care they deserve.

@MercyBooth very true. Yet if you try and point out that the government are using covid to put through such terrible things without opposition, you get accused of being a conspiracy theorist.

But at least I can say from experience the food is better in the private healthcare sector

IVF egg collection:

NHS - one biscuit and a glass of water. No post op pain relief.

Private: lovely lunch, extra mayonnaise when I asked, tea, coffee and morphine

I can only talk about Wales and GP friends they said five years ago they gave the NHS as we know it five years. The writing was on the wall re referral being frowned upon practice fined if they tried to forward to consultants willy nilly as the health board saw it. My old GP retired in her mid fifties

My DM, who's nearly 80 and has been an AD from the start even when I was anxious and insisting on shopping for her, has been worrying about the impact of lockdown on our immune systems since March last year. She's not remotely medical just v sensible. Can't believe it hasn't occurred to anyone or has been ignored.

Well colour me surprised.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/15/surge-in-alcohol-related-deaths-in-england-during-lockdown-report-finds

[quote MercyBooth]Well colour me surprised.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/15/surge-in-alcohol-related-deaths-in-england-during-lockdown-report-finds[/quote]
It's cheaper at home, pubs, clubs depending how deep your pocket is. Not being able to see a GP added to the rise I suspect

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4297955-ADs-dont-want-your-freedom-ADs-dont-want-to-play-around?watched=1

Last contribution to the group hug... link to the next thread... see you there!