ADs shelter in The Sleeping Swans and have a group hug

[BogRollBOGOF]

Another installment in the saga.

Maybe following up with an Indian, Korma please, but protect the naans...

Two sides of a similar authoritarian coin

Exactly.

Thanks all for your sympathies

I'd walk the dog, stick to quiet times.

I was taking the DCs out for a walk each evening. Different that it was a class isolation rather than symptoms/ tests, but with the class there's the element of being seen with a chunk of the community knowing that their class was off.

DS's sports team broke 6 hours early. The coach has half the team in the class and is a dad and by that stage in the evening had already exceeded 10 full days as they were sent home by mid-morning. As the isolation affected a chunk of my group running on the park at the same time, I got DH to walk him round a longer, less exposed route as many of my group know that his class was still in their final hours. If the sports coach is happy with it, that's fine by me. My group has different hierachies and risk assessments to abide by and is more flexible at working remotely and continuing in the absence of a cluster of children.

We’ve been out. It’s raining so didn’t see a soul anyway which was good. I haven’t told him yet that I only have enough dog food for for a few days. He’s raw fed so that’s going to be a pain. My freezer isn’t big enough to store loads so I just buy a week’s worth at a time.

I’m getting loads of grief from a friend who I saw a couple of days ago. She is petrified of Covid and has asked me to test daily and let her know the results. She’s cancelled all her weekend plans and has decided to self isolate just in case! I thought she only had to act if I tested positive but am prepared to be corrected.

So happy you can go see your family @LivinLaVidaLoki.
I feel the care home scandal and loved ones dying alone is worse than covid. Just so cruel.
I haven’t got the NHS app and have no intention of downloading. People must be so lucky to get full pay etc to isolate.
What covid has taught me is lots and lots of people want to live in a police state

Missed you lot but have been catching up!

Excellent news @LivinLaVidaLoki , so pleased for you.

Beautiful cat @Evenstar

Thanks for the A-ha and Morten Harket videos. Lovely to hear and beautiful Norwegian scenery too.

Hope you are feeling more positive @BogRollBOGOF

I've had my hair cut for the first time since March 2020. Was going to book myself an appointment for after 19th July and then went to the barbers on impulse on Thursday. He does my son's hair, is a trained hairdresser and doesn't wear a mask unless a customer is wearing one. He was happy to chop a few inches off for the bargain price of £12!

I haven't been to the hairdressers in 18m+!
I'm pretty low maintainence, have a decent set of scissors and it's one of those things that always hits my procrastination field anyway.
With the warm weather, it's nearly always up. Maybe September to celebrate the DCs going back to school

Does anyone subscribe to the Telegraph and can c and p this for me please?

www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/will-nudge-unit-pulling-strings-freedom-day/

@MercyBooth

An observation ive made.

The right talk about the deserving/non deserving poor and the left talk about the deserving/ non deserving NHS patient. Quite a disturbing parallel.

Really is. On another thread I heard of nurses getting up a petition to refuse treatment to unvaccinated people. If this is the way my profession goes, count me out - but as a psychologist I’m usually told I’m not a healthcare professional anyways we are when it suits though, when they want to offload people with mental health issues who don’t belong in A&E!

I'm genuinely upset the vaccine has become so divisive and toxic. They never even gave people a chance instead heading straight for the traditional COVID response of pressure and guilt tripping. The vaccine works in that it cuts the risk of severe disease and death by an incredible degree. It looks like in order to evade the vaccine the virus would have to mutate so mush it would be unable to function as a virus. Yet we've become obsessed with the need for every man, woman and child (and possibly pet) having the jab. What next? Squirrels ffs

Don't give them ideas @GiveMeNovocain - do you remember the fuss about cats being able to spread Covid? You'll get people saying we can't move on until all cats are jabbed next!

Sorry, can I pick your collective brains again please? DS has had a positive PCR and is obviously self isolating and I have been too. However he’s only been asked for close contacts from the date of his test which was Friday and advised he may want to tell anyone he was in contact with for the previous 48 hours who don’t have to isolate unless they are contacted by T&T. I’m separated from his dad and have not actually seen him since last Monday so does that mean I don’t have to do anything? He hasn’t had any symptoms so I’m really not sure. The rules are so bloody complicated.

Someone else called it “Government by emotional blackmail “ and some people are loving it!

If anyone glares at me for not wearing a mask after 19th they are going to get full “quick look up down from head-toe-head slight smirk indicating your views are unworthy of consideration you insignificant little person” with every ounce of superior snootiness I can muster.

@Iheartmysmart

Sorry, can I pick your collective brains again please? DS has had a positive PCR and is obviously self isolating and I have been too. However he’s only been asked for close contacts from the date of his test which was Friday and advised he may want to tell anyone he was in contact with for the previous 48 hours who don’t have to isolate unless they are contacted by T&T. I’m separated from his dad and have not actually seen him since last Monday so does that mean I don’t have to do anything? He hasn’t had any symptoms so I’m really not sure. The rules are so bloody complicated.

Sorry I don't understand. Is it your son you haven't seen since last week or your ex partner? (Sorry, I am tired so probably not reading it at all well). If you didn't see him until when you picked him up I think you have to do the self isolating from when you came into contact with him. However I am not 100% sure

Sorry Small, I was rambling a bit. DS is 19, mainly lives with his dad but spends two/three nights a week with me. DS got pinged on Friday and was told to self isolate for 4 days, he did a lateral flow on Friday which was positive so went for a PCR which was also positive. Because of the football, Ive not seen him since Monday 5th and I can’t work out whether I need to self isolate. I don’t officially come under household or a contact within 48 hours. My LFT have all been negative and I’m double vaccinated.

This 'expected to wear a mask' nonsense from Zahawi is just more nudge-buggery, isn't it. (Isn't it?)

It's just so obviously semantics. What does 'expected' even mean? Expected by whom? (Or maybe it's who...)

It could mean anything: the government, the law, society generally, a few people's feelz. It could mean in regards to those poll results that suggested a majority of people wanted to keep masks. The 'expectation' in that instance being of those people who said 'yes I like the masks give me all of the masks and make all of the people wear all of the masks'.

I do wonder if there'll be a u-turn on it but I'm more confident that what they'll do is guilt people into it.

@110APiccadilly

Don't give them ideas *@GiveMeNovocain* - do you remember the fuss about cats being able to spread Covid? You'll get people saying we can't move on until all cats are jabbed next!

After reading the restriction fans on here I'm convinced your best defence against Covid is being utterly miserable. Much better than the vaccine, which people seem to claim only works if every other living thing has had it too and you've activated it by announcing it on Facebook.

Smiling spreads germs. Laughing is basically murder. Stay miserable. Save lives.

Why do they love masks so much?

Thanks IRan. I thought I was but was confusing the hell out of myself trying to interpret the rules.

I’ve just been told that I’ll have to continue wearing a mask after 19 July at my Saturday job. I work for a close friend in her shop so don’t really feel I can say no. I see the official line has changed to “expected to”! Bloody daft as already mentioned.

I have to wear a mask to enter a restaurant passing people fleetingly. Sit down mask off. Need a pee mask back on to scurry past people. It's mad

@WouldBeGood

Why do they love masks so much?

I think it's primal. Masks are obvious and visible. And they physically cover the area that is seen as the 'projector' of coronavirus -- the nose and mouth.

I think it's this very basic symbolism of it that attracts people, despite the... ahem... varied reports of their actual effectiveness. A lot of people think, at a subconscious level, that masks must work because they cover the risky area.

Also, the principle of covering a body part for hygiene or risk-reduction purposes has longstanding precedent in things like condoms, nappies, verruca plasters, rash guards.