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If you're female and frequented rock clubs...

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whoami24601 · 12/03/2021 10:23

Can you help me? I have a theory...

With #toomanymen trending and everyone sharing stories I've been mulling over my own experiences of harassment. Whilst thinking about my time as a teenager I've realised that, although I mostly went to rock pubs and clubs, all of my bad experiences happened in 'normal' nightclubs.

I have long thought that the rock scene is much more relaxed, friendly and accepting than others, and I'd like to know if that is your experience as well? I'm interested if I'm the exception or the rule.

Thanks!

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Theforest · 28/03/2021 17:17

@Nenevalleykayaker

1990s I was in my 20s

Swindon had a couple of sawdust-on-the-floor biker pubs and I do recall the men being courteous and protective. This is biker rock pubs with led zep cover bands and everyone wearing fringed leather jackets that kind of place !

Conversely as I (reluctantly) grew out of that scene and started clubbing, it was well known that most nightclubs and bistros/bars were just purely meat markets. Yeah Route 66 I’m looking at you Grin

The Bell by any chance??
JollyAndBright · 28/03/2021 17:25

I can 100% agree with this.

Rock/metal clubs were definitely where I always felt safe being alone, never in a ‘normal’ club, I always felt I had to be on guard after way too many bad experiences.

This isn’t just in the uk, in every country I have lived and worked I have had the same experiences.
Even at music festivals.

I’ve always found that rock/metal/alternate people are on a whole just better people.

Onlinedilema · 28/03/2021 17:32

Never thought about this before but yes I agree 100%.
Been to rock festivals and camped overnight no handlebar so ever. Everyone polite and friendly. Sadly the same can't be said for other clubs/events.

Onlinedilema · 28/03/2021 17:33

Handlebar? Hassle

Tiktokersmiracle · 28/03/2021 17:43

@whoami24601

Can you help me? I have a theory...

With #toomanymen trending and everyone sharing stories I've been mulling over my own experiences of harassment. Whilst thinking about my time as a teenager I've realised that, although I mostly went to rock pubs and clubs, all of my bad experiences happened in 'normal' nightclubs.

I have long thought that the rock scene is much more relaxed, friendly and accepting than others, and I'd like to know if that is your experience as well? I'm interested if I'm the exception or the rule.

Thanks!

Ex-goth/indie kid here

Mid to late nineties in Kent.

So, mostly sound, always had a great time, but the bouncers helped a lot, they used to make sure us girls left safely, and they had cab numbers of trusted cab firms, if it was a single girl going home, they had the number of a female driver only can company that only operated from clubs at night. Was a godsend.

However, I got myself into a not very nice situation. I had a huge row with my (now ex) boyfriend and realised it meant going home alone. Had no money on me as he had my stuff in his coat pocket. Could get in my bedsit easily as I never locked the door and someone was always up to let me in.
A guy I'd known years offered to walk me home. I had had a few but felt totally safe with him.
When I got back, he said he would make us coffee, I must have got in, and fallen asleep cos I was pissed.
I woke up at some point, he was ripping my tights off me, he had already pulled my skirt out the way. He didn't realise I had woken up and I froze at first. When he had finished on my tights (and I remember in my half drunk/half shocked state I was really miffed about the rights as they were vintage Dior from the eighties), he started tugging my underwear. It was at that point I knee'd him straight in the face. He recoiled back, groaning, I really clocked him one as his face was bleeding. I then grabbed a rolling pin I had in my drawer next to the bed, and screamed get the fuck out now.
He then grabbed my arm and spat on my ear that I could do one thing to him or another, both sexual, and I just screamed as hard as I could.
Luckily, two lads who lived down the hall heard, piled through my door and grabbed him, giving him a good kicking as they chucked him out.

I never reported it. I was so embarrassed. I felt it was my fault. My boyfriend told me it was my fault. That it was my "bad rep" and letting a boy in I was asking for it.

The guy later raped 3 women. It was in the press. I felt fucking dreadful. And responsible. Because I had shut up and never reported it.

I now think that it was a combination of not trusting the police as they weren't fans of the shared house I lived in, not having support from my boyfriend, and feeling embarrassed that did it.

ValancyRedfern · 28/03/2021 17:44

Totally. Never any bother in rock clubs. Sleaze Central in your normal 'cheesy' music club.

ValancyRedfern · 28/03/2021 17:46

So sorry I hadn't read you post before posting. Tiktoker so sorry the hear of your experience. FlowersFlowers

BashfulClam · 28/03/2021 17:51

Yes in rock clubs everyone jury seemed to be pals. In ‘mainstream’ I have been groped, held and kissed against my will, threatened with rape...

WeAllHaveWings · 28/03/2021 17:57

Only time there was any bother in rock clubs was when there were "tourists" and when they crossed a line were quickly taken outside and given a slap removed.

tsmainsqueeze · 28/03/2021 18:07

From your title alone i knew what you were going to say !
Exactly my experience too , i have really thought about this and i can't recall one unpleasant experience in those types of clubs, just nice respectful men.

thecatsthecats · 28/03/2021 18:28

@Eivor

Yeah that’s been my experience too and I also found that when I did have problems, other people were more likely to step in or call it out.
Agreed.

I was never groped or hassled in a rock club (flirted with yes - in fact I picked up my husband in an indie bar), but the one time there was a whiff of trouble, a group of guys proactively chose to shield my group of friends, dancing around us to block a creep stalking my friend.

In "normal" clubs I'd act the bouncer to my friends, being 5-6" taller than them and not teetering on heels.

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