Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

[HelloThereMeHearties]

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

@Practicalprat

Let’s face it they can say what they like,why does everyone believe what’s coming out of their mouths.They know full well there is no way the Royal Family are going to start replying to any of it or try to explain.This is one side of an elaborate story me thinks.don’t tell me MM couldn’t have got help,and if H was so incensed by it why didn’t he play the dutiful husband and GET her some. The cynic in me thinks they needed a few shit bombs to take the pressure off of the bullying inquiry.Pretty sure they aren’t going to gain fans after this.

Well said

@WaverleyPirate

Me, me, me, woe is me, whine, whine, how hard is my life with my millions, me, me, me, want to be alone, not happy being left alone (I was sympathetic up to this point) where is all the attention I'm used to hi Oprah!

Someone will make a song out of it. MM for Me Me.

@Bluntness100

I don’t think it’s as simple as people saying Meghan lied.

Obviously saying they got married three days before hand is erroneous. Legally they got married the day it was televised. But maybe she used the wrong words.

And obviously both her and Harry were confused on what was said when about the skin tone issue with the child. She thinks when she was pregnant,and him before they were even married. They seem a bit confused on that score.

One thing that does occur to me,is they have not named the person who said it. But they still can.

So someone, has something being held over them, I suspect it’s William. He’s not going to want that to come out if it was him. There’s no way to make it look good. And Meghan and Harry could pull that little trigger anytime they want. Now Harry won’t ever . But I’d not bet money on lifetime anonymity being granted by Meghan.

They knew exactly what they were doing when they told everyone. Along with the little threat that it would be too damaging for them to say who it was. Harry said he’d never say, Meghan I don’t think gave any such guarantee.

Excellent points - especially about the person who said it knowing it's hanging over them.

And what now?

If the palace machine does zero in reaction.

Is she/they done? Have they finished?

Are they after a specific reaction from someone? Or is it all just to stay interesting in the US?

I mean what is the goal here?

Here you go. In Diana’s own words @GoLightlyontheEarth

It rained and rained and rained and I came down early from Balmoral to seek treatment, not because I hated Balmoral but because I was in such a bad way. Anyway, came down here [London]. All the analysts and psychiatrists you could ever dream of came plodding in trying to sort me out. Put me on high doses of Valium and everything else.”

— Diana: Her True Story - In Her Own Words: 25th Anniversary Edition by Andrew Morton

So she actually took a break from her Balmoral honeymoon to visit London to consult (multiple) MH professionals.

The White House has come out in support of Meghan and Harry

Speaking at today’s daily press briefing, Psaki addressed Oprah’s interview between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, saying it “takes courage” to speak about personal struggles.

“Meghan Markle is a private citizen, and so is Harry at this point, for anyone to come forward and speak about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes courage,” Psaki said.

Like it doesn’t occur to him that he is a grown man who can make his own arrangements

It actually probably didn't.

It seems like they didn't really have much control over their own choices and destiny.

Everything they do requires permission from what we know (and that's not from the interviews but just general knowledge).

They get given residencies, they must wear tights, certain clothing and styles etc.

As much as people think money and all you life you get with the incredible wealth is a privilege I know I see my freedom and autonomy over my own choices and decisions as privilege.

How many threads on here are there about IL donating house deposits and warnings that comes with ties or even worse the threads where it does come with caveats.

I thought it was a little unfair to accuse "someone" of being racist but not be straight down the line & so "someone" does not have the opportunity to defend themselves.

Ach well - this will be forgotten in a few years so hey ho

but @itsgettingwierd they had loads of control. Nobody forced them to be full time working royals, many of the other royals aren't, that was their choice. They could very easily have done a few engagements, enjoyed the early days of their marriage, she could have continued to work as before but no they wanted to go all in as newlyweds, no time to adjust or live for themselves. William had a job in air sea rescue, he and Kate lived in Anglesey. The Queen's other grandchildren work and live relatively private lives. The Queen herself was a forces wife and became the monarch at a young age, much sooner than expected. she would not force any of her family to do the same.

working royals diaries are planned long in advance for very good, practical reasons and there are lots of strict protocols. Harry doesn't appear to have informed his wife of the job description.

@SophieB100

The only winner in all of this, is Oprah.

Yes but she’s pathetic as an interviewer. I haven’t watched her for years but I recall she was very good at connecting with people and getting things out of them without being aggressive. Here, I feel she knew exactly what Meghan was going to say. I think there have been many conversations between them leading up to this.

The listing on my TV is saying “Oprah with Meghan and...”

sounds about right.

@Lauren15 Oprah was amazing when she interviewed the victims of Michael Jackson after Leaving Neverland. She was awful tonight - didn't challenge their behaviour, did ask hard hitting questions, just fawned and did faux shock faces

The key point is paul burrell has emerged yet again with more made up crap to keep his name going and earn a few quid.......It's hysterical how you just know he will be on some cheap tv am show with his words of wisdom.....vile man.

@RickiTarr

Here you go. In Diana’s own words *@GoLightlyontheEarth*

It rained and rained and rained and I came down early from Balmoral to seek treatment, not because I hated Balmoral but because I was in such a bad way. Anyway, came down here [London]. All the analysts and psychiatrists you could ever dream of came plodding in trying to sort me out. Put me on high doses of Valium and everything else.”

— Diana: Her True Story - In Her Own Words: 25th Anniversary Edition by Andrew Morton

That wasn’t on her honeymoon though! It was much later.

That wasn’t on her honeymoon though! It was much later.

It was October 81, towards the end of their long honeymoon.

If you look at the three screen grabs I attached, you’ll see on the next page she describes the next thing that happened was she discovered she was pregnant with William.

*I'm also interested to hear what poster have to say about the accusations of bullying against Meghan?

For me, it seems that it's come as a very convenient time. Unless the accusations completely compelling, I'll reserve my belief in that story TBH.*
Weren't these over the papers ages ago?
Also I thought i read the palace were reviewing their policies as opposed to one person etc as it appears it was swept under the carpet at the time

I found it strange that MM never mentioned her mother. I understand they are close as apparently she lives with them now and helps look after the child.

@Netmicks

I found it strange that MM never mentioned her mother. I understand they are close as apparently she lives with them now and helps look after the child.

I don’t as her mother always been very quiet and out of limelight, I see this as them respecting that

@Netmicks

I found it strange that MM never mentioned her mother. I understand they are close as apparently she lives with them now and helps look after the child.

She did say something about “four years of quiet dignity” about her mother - comparing her to her father - in an outtake. Presumably she didn’t choose the edit.

Facts shame they don’t have that respect for anyone else...

@minou123

Wondermule But how on earth would you enforce that? A lot of the time the ‘shaming’ is very subtle, they don’t use overt insults, just things they know will provoke public reaction like unflattering photos etc.

You would have to very clearly define the boundaries and whatever they were, the press would write so they jusssst fell short of it.

I’m not disagreeing with the premise, I just think it would be impossible to do.

Easy, by people speaking up.

That goes back to the original point of your post.

You said Meghan should have followed Kate and kept a "dignified silence".

Nothing every gets changed by keeping silent.

What do you mean, you'd enforce something "by people speaking out"? So, you'd legally require the press to delete an article on the RF everyone someone complained about it?

@minou123

Wondermule Okay, so say a petition against press nastiness somehow reaches 10 million signatures. The newspapers say ‘we promise not to be nasty again’. It would just creep back in. The only permanent option would be legislating against it, which would mean further press restrictions which are never popular. What you suggest is morally correct but unenforceable.

There is no legislation preventing the gutter press printing topless girls.
There is no legislation banning The Sun from being sold in Liverpool.

It only creeps back in if you let it or want it.

The gutter press want to make sexist, misogynistic, racist comments about royal women. And some of the public let them.

"Printing topless girls" versus "Not printing topless girls" is clearcut.

Racism, sexism, misogyny or whatever are hard to define and everyone will have different ideas about what constitutes these things.