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Prince Philip in Hospital

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Tyredofallthis1 · 17/02/2021 14:46

I hope he's alright. I suppose at his age it's always a worry. I thought that when he retired a few years ago that he may have health worries, so I wonder if stuff has caught up with him.

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MagicSummer · 18/02/2021 09:02

I really hope he gets better and can go home soon. Reason for this is not just because he is an old man who has lived to 99 2/3 and it would be nice for him to get to 100 with all the accompanying razzamatazz; such a high profile loss at the current time would be so bad for morale in this country. Then there is the whole nightmare of a state funeral with all the crowds who would attend, which would probably set off another wave of infections. The Queen (for personal reasons) and the Government (for practical reasons) must be praying that he pulls through.

itsgettingwierd · 18/02/2021 09:13

@Bluntness100

Of course he’s not under the local gp, he has a private doctor, that’s always been public knowledge. The senior royals always have. The queen doesn’t pop along to the gp surgery when she’s feeling out of sorts.
That made me laugh with visions of the queen turning up at the local surgery in a 2 piece stating "one requires a face to face appointment with a GP please" Grin
FossilisedFanny · 18/02/2021 09:19

I’m sure I read somewhere that he doesn’t want any razzmatazz for his birthday.

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RoseAndRose · 18/02/2021 09:22

He wouldn't get a state funeral - it would be a royal ceremonial one (like all other consorts)

Except that if it happened during covid, it would be a private one and there would be a royal ceremonial memorial service at a suitable time.

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Tyredofallthis1 · 18/02/2021 10:47

@FossilisedFanny I think I've also read that he doesn't want a state funeral.

I don't think he is that keen on the ceremonial.

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MintyCedric · 18/02/2021 10:47

He's not got the local GP making house calls then being admitted to whichever NHS hospital has a bed.

Neither have the general public at the moment, unfortunately for most of us any other option is either impractical or unaffordable.

Bluntness100 · 18/02/2021 10:58

@MintyCedric

He's not got the local GP making house calls then being admitted to whichever NHS hospital has a bed.

Neither have the general public at the moment, unfortunately for most of us any other option is either impractical or unaffordable.

Well yes, but they are not expected to live as per the population, we can’t afford to have multiple homes and live in palaces either, it is what it is.

It’s unrealistic to expect them to be under gp care or for gps to be making home visits to them. That’s not how it works or how it has ever worked. You’re never going to see the queen sitting in the waiting room at her local gp surgery becayse her piles are playing her up.

MintyCedric · 18/02/2021 11:41

@Bluntness100

Well of course not. My issue is not that the Royals get wildly superior treatment because of whose fanjos they came out and the taxpayer's their wealth, it's the fact that the average member of the public can't even expect a bare minimum of medical care atm.

Whilst I fully appreciate we are in the middle of a pandemic I don't see any reason why elderly people who genuinely need medical care/home visits should not be able to access them via the NHS, which is certainly an issue where we live at the moment.

Even if one can afford private medical treatment, it's not available in every area and certainly not to those who are, sadly, bedridden.

But never mind, we'll focus all put attention on good old Prince Phil and leave the peasants to suffer, eh?

Bluntness100 · 18/02/2021 12:45

Minty I’m sorry your father is going through that. And it’s astonishing he’s being refused end of life care. I don’t think anyone is saying that’s ok, simply this thread is about Philip. It doesn’t mean becayse someone started a thread on him and people comment that no one else matters.

I’m not sure why the health providers are refusing to provide him medical treatment, but it seems totally unacceptable to me. Potentially you could start a different thread and some people may have some suggestions to help you.

Tullyjune · 18/02/2021 13:49

Everyone has different advantages and disadvantages depending on who they are born to. In the 1980s I could have been born into a Romanian Orphanage or the famine in Ethiopia. But by virtue of my birth I was born into a warm home with loving parents and plentiful food and all of the life opportunities being born into one of the richest economies in the world brought me. I didn’t deserve it, I didn’t earn it.

We don’t all start off equal and it’s a bit weird to complain about the royals riches when more than half the world’s population can’t imagine being as rich and lucky as you.

PottedCrab · 18/02/2021 14:17

Still bemused by the claims of cancer. I can’t find one single reliable source for it.

BlueTimes · 18/02/2021 14:25

@PottedCrab

Still bemused by the claims of cancer. I can’t find one single reliable source for it.
As above, the Palace issues a statement denying he had prostate cancer:

The Duke of Edinburgh has authorised us to confirm that the claim made by the Evening Standard that he has received a ’diagnosis of prostate cancer’ is untrue.

We believe that the Evening Standard’s front page story today titled ’Prince Philip Defies Cancer Scare’ is a serious breach of Prince Philip’s privacy.

Buckingham Palace has always maintained that members of the Royal Family have a right to privacy, particularly in relation to their personal health.

For this reason, we have always refused to confirm or deny the persistent rumours that circulate about their health, particularly during the quieter news months.

We will continue to observe this long-standing practice; but on this occasion, because the damaging story is now being reported widely, the Duke of Edinburgh has authorised us to confirm that the claim made by the Evening Standard that he has received a ’diagnosis of prostate cancer’ is untrue.

We believe there has been a serious breach of the Duke of Edinburgh’s right to privacy and we will be taking this issue to the Press Complaints Commission.

We will be asking the PCC to remind all editors of their obligations.

RickiTarr · 18/02/2021 14:28

That’s very carefully worded, but of course his health is absolutely his business.

PottedCrab · 18/02/2021 14:47

So great. I saw that: a cancer denial.

They denied he had prostate cancer. It won’t have been a lie. Where is the source to say he currently has cancer? That’s what I can’t find.

PottedCrab · 18/02/2021 14:50

Quite apart from that “news” (calling people nosy rumour spreading twats who should mind their own business) is over a decade old.

BlueTimes · 18/02/2021 14:51

@RickiTarr

That’s very carefully worded, but of course his health is absolutely his business.
It’s very emphatic about prostate cancer and I recall at the time there were rumours of bladder cancer as well which haven’t been mentioned.

I have no idea if he does or does not have cancer. At his age, his body will be in decline regardless and many people live with a type of cancer for many years which doesn’t end up being the cause of death.

PottedCrab · 18/02/2021 15:08

I want to know the source of claiming he currently has cancer. That’s all. Where is the evidence of this? It just gets flung out and a 12 year old denial of prostate cancer isn’t it!

Bluntness100 · 18/02/2021 15:16

@PottedCrab

I want to know the source of claiming he currently has cancer. That’s all. Where is the evidence of this? It just gets flung out and a 12 year old denial of prostate cancer isn’t it!
Gosh, are you ok? You seem very upset.
itsgettingwierd · 18/02/2021 15:23

Bluntness I think it's fine to ask the source. You were the one who stated it so perhaps you could link or cite the source?

PottedCrab · 18/02/2021 15:32

Grin not in the slightest bit “upset”. Read a lot into things there is no evidence for?!

I like people to provide sources for things that they say. When I read the papers, I often check their figures with the ONS. Not from upset. From common sense. So where I cannot find a source online to say that Prince Philip currently has cancer, I would be happy for you to share your source with us.

BlueTimes · 18/02/2021 15:47

@PottedCrab

Grin not in the slightest bit “upset”. Read a lot into things there is no evidence for?!

I like people to provide sources for things that they say. When I read the papers, I often check their figures with the ONS. Not from upset. From common sense. So where I cannot find a source online to say that Prince Philip currently has cancer, I would be happy for you to share your source with us.

You do sound a little fixated. Do you usually ask the same question on repeat time and time again? It seems a little odd which is perhaps why it’s suggested you might be upset. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Bluntness100 · 18/02/2021 15:49

Potted, sorry it was because you asked repeatedly and used exclamation marks that made it look like more than just idle curiousity

And source, I’ve no idea, if he doesn’t that’s great.

splishsplashsploshs · 18/02/2021 16:03

it's the fact that the average member of the public can't even expect a bare minimum of medical care atm.

That's not been our experience, two of my elderly relatives have had excellent in patient and community care from the NHS, my elderly father has had excellent out patient and community care from the NHS and one of my DCs is currently receiving excellent care from the NHS GP surgery. All in 4 different geographical areas of the UK.

MintyCedric · 18/02/2021 16:14

@Bluntness100

Minty I’m sorry your father is going through that. And it’s astonishing he’s being refused end of life care. I don’t think anyone is saying that’s ok, simply this thread is about Philip. It doesn’t mean becayse someone started a thread on him and people comment that no one else matters.

I’m not sure why the health providers are refusing to provide him medical treatment, but it seems totally unacceptable to me. Potentially you could start a different thread and some people may have some suggestions to help you.

Cheers I'm actually getting some great support elsewhere on MN and I appreciate it's not the point of this thread but after nearly a year of banging my head against a brick wall and particularly shitty week last week I'm a bit tetchy!

To cut a long story short, he's too frail for any kind of formal diagnosis (was initially suspected cancer but too frail for invasive tests to confirm) and not quite frail enough, consistently enough to qualify for 'specialist palliative care' which means the usual charities and local hospice won't get involved.

All the while his BP, heart rate and oxygen sats are ok he's not classed as needing medical intervention, so we just keep plodding on.

MercyBooth · 18/02/2021 16:47

@MintyCedric That is inhumane as well as fucked up. Flowers

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