ADs are braving the wind and the rain

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Hi all

I couldn’t find the new thread so here is one I set up. It’s windy out there! Glad I weeded my flowerbeds a couple of days ago.

The other problem with the testing is getting fragments of the virus long after you're not infectious anymore. DD tested positive 3 weeks after her symptoms.

I don't know some areas of Scotland - still seem high according to BBC map.

Though earlier restrictions do seem to be a better idea - have to wait and see where Wales ends up. We're still in a highish bit.

Do you realise that a PCR test has to be carried out in a very strict time limit? DS2 had COVID toes - obvious visual sign - but tested negative as 3 weeks plus initial onset of vague symptoms of fatigue and GI symptoms.

There is objective reality and then imperfect measures of what is the case.

Viral transmission only deals with objective reality.

Politics only deals with subjective reality and this is always debatable and easily subverted by ideological debates.

Public health and policy tries to balance the two.

It just might be that political obsession with the subjective and focus on issues of 'freedom' (plus economic interests) are blinding so called advanced countries to the adoption of non-pharmalogical interventions and using prophylactic and early treatments that have been used elsewhere to great effect.

I can't work out whether you are all COVID deniers - end of - or whether you are critical of lockdowns due to specific failures? The educated and ignorant sometimes agree.

@KeepOnKeepingOnAgainandAgain

Do you realise that a PCR test has to be carried out in a very strict time limit? DS2 had COVID toes - obvious visual sign - but tested negative as 3 weeks plus initial onset of vague symptoms of fatigue and GI symptoms.

There is objective reality and then imperfect measures of what is the case.

Viral transmission only deals with objective reality.

Politics only deals with subjective reality and this is always debatable and easily subverted by ideological debates.

Public health and policy tries to balance the two.

It just might be that political obsession with the subjective and focus on issues of 'freedom' (plus economic interests) are blinding so called advanced countries to the adoption of non-pharmalogical interventions and using prophylactic and early treatments that have been used elsewhere to great effect.

I can't work out whether you are all COVID deniers - end of - or whether you are critical of lockdowns due to specific failures? The educated and ignorant sometimes agree.

If you can't work it out this thread probably ain't for you.

I’m a bit worried about those doing last night of the pubs...Vienna was very busy when the attack happened, for that reason apparently

The threat level has just been raised to 'severe' - make of that what you will.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

There's a whole thread of people saying you can't travel for exercise despite the guidelines saying you can.

Is there a limit on how far we can travel ?

I'm picturing you in your open top car with your bobbly hat driving down to Lyme Regis to walk on the beach . Not knowing what you look like you are wearing a pink sparkly hat

I am eating my weight in chocolates. That will teach me for actually going shopping in person as Morrisons is full of cheap tins of chocolates and sweets.

I was looking at this about the Scottish numbers stabilising - yes still high though in some places

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54535938

She's probably out the Central belt into the highest level (lockdown) I reckon, perhaps

I can't work out whether you are all COVID deniers - end of - or whether you are critical of lockdowns due to specific failures? The educated and ignorant sometimes agree

We're not covid deniers, just critical of, well the madness really.

What's a Covid toe?

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Just got back from a holiday in the Lyme Regis area. Absolutely one of my favourite places and so pleased it didn't get cancelled again (we were meant to go at Easter). Such a tonic for the soul after this stupid year...now back to worrying about potential school closures

So just criticism with no alternative? OK.

[quote Orangeblossom7777]I was looking at this about the Scottish numbers stabilising - yes still high though in some places

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54535938[/quote]
Interesting - I hadn't seen that link yet.

Oh joy now avian flu again

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54787797

@KeepOnKeepingOnAgainandAgain

So just criticism with no alternative? OK.

Sorry but we don't have to justify this thread or any of the opinions on it.

@110APiccadilly

"Obviously an attempt to stop the 5th November protest"

I don't think they let you rent the cellars under the Houses of Parliament to store your totally non-suspicious barrels of a powdery substance any more, do they?

No, but what’s that got to do with the planned protest?

In other news an ICU nurse friend of DS is off on Monday when lockdown ends for a massage and lots of waxing from her eyebrows to her toes. She is a very positive person.

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

I don't know some areas of Scotland - still seem high according to BBC map.

Though earlier restrictions do seem to be a better idea - have to wait and see where Wales ends up. We're still in a highish bit.

Wales is doing ok, just looked at daily cases, far fewer getting tested now and cases going down in the main. Four deaths yesterday.

@Sonicthehedgehogg Covid toe sounds a bit too much like camel toe to me.
I remember having really nasty (and the genuine acticle) flu when I was in my twenties. It was bad enough that I would just collapse if I tried to stand up for the worst 5 days of it. I was left, after having had no sense of taste and smell for a couple of weeks, with the vilest taste in my mouth for about a month, breathlessness and general exhaustion. Post viral syndrome is nothing new. Guess what? It eventually all got better!

We've gone in our bit of Wales in last few weeks per 100,000 people 172 to 275 to this weeks 178 - so it is going down.

Just over the boarder in England cases are rising rapidly.

@Reedwarbler I've been very lucky never to have had the flu but DH has. He says he knows it was the flu... because his mum and girlfriend were googling 'meningitis' because he was so ill.

What was the new link for the localised maps?

I'm having a better day. Helped by DH being on a site so having the house to myself and going to Tuesday's outdoor fitness class in lieu of Thursday's. No crying on the school playground. My brain is like mush though.

Here's info about covid toe and rashes, Zoe thinks it should be a fourth symptom covid.joinzoe.com/us-post/skin-rash-covid

This is funny we have just had some relatives text to say they are in the UK from Holland. They planned to travel before the lockdown..anyway they have had tests apparently

I'm a bit concerned as they don't seem to realise how things are here compared to Holland (less strict)