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Corbyn Suspended

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Sparklfairy · 29/10/2020 13:21

Good. His arrogance and refusal to apologise (ever, for anything) has come back to bite him.

news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-suspended-from-labour-party-12117833

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ultragroupie · 30/10/2020 14:56

@noblegiraffe

A party led by Corbyn certainly could go a long way to undermine Starmer in the next GE.

A party led by Corbyn certainly managed to undermine the Labour Party in the last GE.

^^ this Grin

That's the trouble with JC and the hard left of the Labour party in my view. Ideological purity or nothing. Don't try to be electable so as to be able to advance policies of fairness - just hide in their echo bubble slating everyone else and therefore offer no credible opposition.
The way KS has acted decisively on this is a positive and makes Labour look like a serious party instead of a 6th form socialist society.

Blackberrycream · 30/10/2020 14:59

Supportivemyarse. Sorry I misunderstood. I have felt a bit on the defensive in this thread 😂 I agree with other posters saying it is illuminating on a certain mindset. On the positive side, many are challenging these viewpoints and it is becoming more comfortable to do so. I didn’t feel like that a year ago.

bellinisurge · 30/10/2020 15:00

No doubt the Tories are laughing their arses off but they can see what's coming for them if they don't tackle islamophobia and won't be able to argue that it's all tedious liberals scoring points against them when it happens. It is long overdue for Labour and I fully support Starmer on this. I might even vote Labour next time instead of spoiling my ballot.
Meanwhile, if you are still a Corbyn supporter, don't let the door hit you too hard on the arse on your way out.

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Gingernaut · 30/10/2020 15:01

Corbyn tolerated appalling bullying in the name of 'cohesion'.

He surrounded himself with sycophants and incompetents who, when interviewed, couldn't put a foot right as far as the electorate were concerned.

Diane Abbott is a liability and many MPs are useless, faceless or helplessly enthralled by Momentum.

Women members discouraged by overt sexism and TWAW zealots, coercing members into signing pledges to Momentum who are a whisker from some sort of enforcing crew, doing nothing to root out the transwomen who have usurped bloody good women out of their roles, because they were the wrong kind of feminists, sitting on the Brexit fence, parachuting Londoners into safe seats as prospective MPs, taking for granted the Labour vote, preventing CLPs from developing and grooming new prospective MPs themselves has bitten Labour on the arse.

Labour had a massive, open goal to aim for at the last election and they comprehensively blew it.

They have created deep resentment within their own CLPs, their constituencies and the electorate as a whole.

The whole organisation is bound by committees, sub-committees, meetings, steering groups and only those who can get in with the 'in crowd' will stay the course to make up the greasy pole of politics.

People expect that of the Conservatives. The electorate know that the Conservatives were racist, sexist, exclusionary and self serving.

Labour has been emulating the Tories and people resent them for it.

Labour are meant to be inclusive, not exclusive and it's the disparity between what Labour is and what they should be that rankles.

Almost every child grooming case is within a Labour stronghold, The Holbeck Prostitution Experiment, Jasmine Beckford, Victoria Climbié and Daniel Pelka all died under Labour councils.

They are ineffectual, too 'woke' to protect the vulnerable from predators and too lenient with transgressors within the Labour Party.

Antisemitism is the tip of a truly horrible iceberg.

Holyrivolli · 30/10/2020 15:11

It’s fascinating how the Corbynites are still tying themselves in knots trying to defend him and are wildly trying to apportion blame to everyone else except him. He was either complicit in antisemitism or incompetent as a party leader.

Most people having seen some of his personal actions and affiliations believe he was complicit. His acolytes are defending him by saying that in spite of his many personal actions and suspect choice of allies that he was actually only an incompetent leader.

Was hoping the dark shadow and total unelectibility that he cast over had waned but some people won’t let this lie. Not sure what they hope to achieve.

anon444877 · 30/10/2020 15:47

I see my Corbyn supporting friends on fb today saying Starmer is annihilating the party - how much worse can things get from the worst election result for labour since 1935? 1935!!

Seriously - absolutely no responsibility for any of their myriad failures.

supportivemyarse · 30/10/2020 16:01

similar with some of my FB friends too anon, people who've conveniently forgotten grumbling about life in Merseyside under Hatton and Militant.

merrymouse · 30/10/2020 16:31

I think there is a bit of confusion about why Jeremy Corbyn was suspended. The report did not investigate whether Jeremy Corbyn was antisemitic, it investigated whether the Labour Party had complied with the EA.

Jeremy Corbyn was suspended because immediately after Keir Starmer said that there was no place in the Labour Party for people who minimise anti-semitism, Jeremy Corbyn (having been briefed on what Keir Starmer would say) released a statement minimising antisemitism in the Labour Party and undermining the report.

Angrycat2768 · 30/10/2020 16:36

@Gingernaut

Corbyn tolerated appalling bullying in the name of 'cohesion'.

He surrounded himself with sycophants and incompetents who, when interviewed, couldn't put a foot right as far as the electorate were concerned.

Diane Abbott is a liability and many MPs are useless, faceless or helplessly enthralled by Momentum.

Women members discouraged by overt sexism and TWAW zealots, coercing members into signing pledges to Momentum who are a whisker from some sort of enforcing crew, doing nothing to root out the transwomen who have usurped bloody good women out of their roles, because they were the wrong kind of feminists, sitting on the Brexit fence, parachuting Londoners into safe seats as prospective MPs, taking for granted the Labour vote, preventing CLPs from developing and grooming new prospective MPs themselves has bitten Labour on the arse.

Labour had a massive, open goal to aim for at the last election and they comprehensively blew it.

They have created deep resentment within their own CLPs, their constituencies and the electorate as a whole.

The whole organisation is bound by committees, sub-committees, meetings, steering groups and only those who can get in with the 'in crowd' will stay the course to make up the greasy pole of politics.

People expect that of the Conservatives. The electorate know that the Conservatives were racist, sexist, exclusionary and self serving.

Labour has been emulating the Tories and people resent them for it.

Labour are meant to be inclusive, not exclusive and it's the disparity between what Labour is and what they should be that rankles.

Almost every child grooming case is within a Labour stronghold, The Holbeck Prostitution Experiment, Jasmine Beckford, Victoria Climbié and Daniel Pelka all died under Labour councils.

They are ineffectual, too 'woke' to protect the vulnerable from predators and too lenient with transgressors within the Labour Party.

Antisemitism is the tip of a truly horrible iceberg.

Quite, and frankly, on e they stop being the only major political party in the British Isles not to have had a female leader, they can start talking about equality and their own moral superiority.
QuentinWinters · 30/10/2020 17:56

Jeremy Corbyn was suspended because immediately after Keir Starmer said that there was no place in the Labour Party for people who minimise anti-semitism, Jeremy Corbyn (having been briefed on what Keir Starmer would say) released a statement minimising antisemitism in the Labour Party and undermining the report.
Yes exactly. What did JC expect to happen? He was being goady.
Best thing for Labour would be if momentum splintered imo. Then maybe left centre people like me would have someone to vote for

NoWordForFluffy · 30/10/2020 18:03

Yes exactly. What did JC expect to happen? He was being goady.

In the same way that Long Bailey goaded Starmer over the Maxine Peake interview furore.

It's like they goad to get a particular result, then play the victim when they get the result they knew would follow. Childish.

RubyViolet · 30/10/2020 18:22

Corbin has made himself the victim. I think he did this on purpose. Kier Starmer briefed him on how he was proposing to respond to the enquiry. Starmer tried to unite the party. Corbin threw it back in his face purposely.
He is so vain, it’s all about him. He is the few now, the party is the many. I want him expelled.

RubyViolet · 30/10/2020 18:23

Spellcheck is naughty...of course it’s Corbyn!

Onceuponatimethen · 30/10/2020 18:32

Delighted to see Corbyn suspended. Dp and I are wondering about rejoining!

Bathroom12345 · 30/10/2020 19:08

I am no fan of the Labour Party but we do need a strong opposition party regardless of who is in power. However they are really mucking it up for themeselves.

Alan Johnson summed it up during the last election results where he was in a TV studio sitting next to Momentum who are at the heart of all of this mess. He wanted them gone. When I see that silly bint Ash Sarkar spouting off rubbish in some TV interview I realise why they didn’t get in and had the worst results since 1935. Only issue is that they don’t.....

mellongoose · 30/10/2020 19:40

Anyone who campaigned with it voted for JC over the last two years is also complicit in this. Including KS.

mellongoose · 30/10/2020 19:40

*or...not it!

blindinglyobviouslight · 31/10/2020 09:18

There is deep denial on this thread about the sabotaging that occurred during the 2017 GE

Sigh.

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