Do you like believe in Astrology?

[Peace92]

Do you believe in astrology?
What's your primal triad?
Sun-
Moon-
Rising-

Define “born”. If astrology works on a to-the-minute basis, this must be important. For a vaginal birth, is it the moment the head crowns? The head appears? The last toe leaves the birth canal? The baby takes its first breath? What the midwife chooses to write on the paperwork?

Not had children myself, but as I am interested in astrology, if I were to I'd make sure someone was with me who could record the following for me:

"Birth Moment - Astrology Encyclopedia Definition of Birth Moment What is generally accepted as the true moment of birth is the moment of the first inspiration of breath after ligation of the umbilical cord."

What you read in the papers re. sun signs is for the most part not true astrology.

True astrology is complex and is based on the minute of birth, as well as the aspects of the planets in relationship to each other. depending on their place in the sky at that time. the main three or four markers for personality are:

1. The rising (ascendant) sign (different to the sun sign and changes every hour or so). Within each rising sign there are a number of "bounds" or smaller divisions, changing every few minutes, each ruled by a different planet, again making a further impact on the individual horoscope
2. The moon sign (the moon changes sign every 3 days)
3. the sun sign

... and many more elements

These all work together to give a bigger picture of the life path etc and indicate what kind of challenges the person might face.

Additionally to this there are the position of the other planets (Mars, venus, saturn etc) each with their own unique meanings. Each is dignified or in detriment or similar in different places of the chart and will denote a different aspect of our character. For example, Mars in venus's sign or house will behave completely differently to when it is in its own sign / house. Someone with a strong mars (such as Trump) might be more blustery or prone to outbursts, for example.

The rising sign denotes the astrological "houses" or places, of which there are 12, each denoting a life area e.g. money, career, children etc. The meanings of the houses are more complex than this. Each planet will fall into a house, and have meaning for that area of life, positive, negative or neutral.

Astrologers can then map the current planetary positions against the birth chart to get an idea of what kind of "weather" might be coming up.

Most astrologers don't believe "rocks in the sky" exert an influence on people, but they are astrological omens, divinitory in nature and rather than being the cause of the events in someone's life, are indicators of what is coming up. Astrology in that sense is strongly linked to belief in god or the sacred / divine as well as to some extent fate, but most astrologers believe we have free will within this.

I neither like nor believe in astrology. The very idea gives me the creeps.

No. Not the tabloid newspaper version nor the pretending to be a science more complex version. The whereabouts of astral bodies at the moment of my birth has no effect on my personality or life whatsoever.

I haven't rtft as I know it's full of grumpy old women being quite rude and pontificating

But yes I believe
I'm sun Scorpio moon and rising Leo
I hope we are in the middle of the shift they say we are 🌟

niceupthedance
I haven't rtft as I know it's full of grumpy old women being quite rude and pontificating

How incredibly polite of you

I was mildly interested in astrology once when someone was talking to me about it.

They came a bit unstuck when I asked about twins who are born a couple of minutes apart. I know twins who have completely opposite personalities and different life paths etc... whereas their astrology charts would be nearly identical.

I had my birth chart done and it was very accurate so yes I do believe to some extent but not with the horoscopes in the daily newspapers or similar. I do think many of the character traits of the starsigns have been quite accurate with my exes too. Dons hard hat ready to be declared doolally.

I'd own up to reading my horoscope daily. And I'd own up to it all being untrue. So why do it? Dunno really. It's more like a thought of the day.

I also did something very crazy recently sort of in the same vein which is pay for a psychic to do a reading. I had something very specific on my mind. The fact that I was that upset to do something like that was interesting to me. But I booked it and found myself handing over 45 pounds.

What I got from the session was half an hour of someone doing the emotional labour for me of thinking through the issue. Should I have booked therapy with a registered, trained person? Undoubtedly. But I still enjoyed the session for what it was - just giving the problem/question to someone else to think about.

The thing is - I was able to restrain myself from booking any more. The risk with these things is you come across an unscrupulous person who would encourage action or create a dependency of some kind. (I know others will disagree with this but the person I spoke to I believe thinks she has a gift and is doing it in good faith. She didn't encourage me to book again, and I left with: trust your instinct.) For me, it was basically paying for someone to be a friend for an hour and kick the tires on something I was worried about.

They came a bit unstuck when I asked about twins who are born a couple of minutes apart. I know twins who have completely opposite personalities and different life paths etc... whereas their astrology charts would be nearly identical

Yes they could well have completely different personalities.

Friend didn’t know her birth time and was going to ask her mother.

Friends birthdate and place of birth from midnight to 11.44pm had the sun in the first house. Looking at what Sun in the first house meant I just knew it wasn’t friend at all.
But at 11.45 the sun had left the first house and was Neptune had moved in.

This was friend to a tee.

Friend came back and said her mother had told her that she was born at 11.52pm.

So twins born just 2 minutes apart could well have completely different personalities if for Instance one was born at the 11.44 pm and one was born at 11.46 pm.

If we are talking about such fine margins does astrology take into account the time it takes for light to travel from the celestial body concerned to earth. You mention Neptune above, it takes light 4.1 hours to travel to earth, so what we are seeing is technically in the past, in real time neptune would have traveled further along its orbital path and therefore possibly moving into a different point on the birth chart?

@dillonpantherstexas - no astrology works on the planetary positions as seen from earth at that exact moment. The earth is at the centre of the birth chart.

However there is also a form of astrology called "heliocentric" which is based on the positions of the planets as if the sun were in the centre, and possibly other similar ones.

No, but it's very fun to play around with.

Think I'm Taurus, Libra, Taurus

https://astro-app.net/rectification.php?lang=enn_

For anyone interested in trying to find their time of birth. I have my time (interesting we record it in Scotland but not in England). I am still trying this though because as pp have rightly said, we don't know if it was recorded accurately as medics are not thinking about astrology at time of birth! My mother says she did record mine though as she is deeply into this stuff. It's fun to try, if nothing else. I am trying to rectify my husband's as he does not know time of birth.

@Peace92

Do you believe in astrology? What's your primal triad? Sun- Moon- Rising-

just realised I never did answer your question OP!

My primal triad is:

Sun Cancer.
Moon Cancer.
Rising Taurus.

This is under the Vedic system which I am really getting into these days. I feel it gives me a more accurate chart. The Vedic system sets a lot more store by your moon sign than by your sun-sign, which is an interesting difference.

"A year earlier, Jessica had gone public with her prediction that a virus would disrupt the world, and also flagged a key date — January 10, 2020 — which turned out to be the day the first confirmed victim of Covid-19 died in Wuhan, China."

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8852847/British-astrologer-predicted-Covid-reveals-whats-really-going-happen-six-months.html

[quote gurteee]"A year earlier, Jessica had gone public with her prediction that a virus would disrupt the world, and also flagged a key date — January 10, 2020 — which turned out to be the day the first confirmed victim of Covid-19 died in Wuhan, China."

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8852847/British-astrologer-predicted-Covid-reveals-whats-really-going-happen-six-months.html[/quote]
And the evidence that this woman made any of these predictions is? I mean, apart from a Daily Mail article published on 18 October 2020 that says she did.

A woman who also thinks 2021 will be a year with ‘lots of romance, especially for those born in the 70s’?

I do hope she's wrong about the union!

I don't believe in astrology but each to his/her own.

However, I know a few people who are really in to astrology but dismiss anyone with religious beliefs as unintelligent and unscientific- how does that make sense? For example, a few of us were once discussing school choices. Our nearest school is a catholic school. My friend commented that she'd never send her child to a faith school or take her child to church as she thought it was wrong to lead children to believe that there is a god somewhere determining their path in life rather than it being down to their own choices and hard work. Also said she wanted her DC to be taught scientific thought and not muddy the waters with religious stories. Then (without a hint of irony- she frequently mentions astrology) ended the discussion with 'but then I am a scorpio!'

@bigmugs

I don't believe in astrology but each to his/her own.

However, I know a few people who are really in to astrology but dismiss anyone with religious beliefs as unintelligent and unscientific- how does that make sense? For example, a few of us were once discussing school choices. Our nearest school is a catholic school. My friend commented that she'd never send her child to a faith school or take her child to church as she thought it was wrong to lead children to believe that there is a god somewhere determining their path in life rather than it being down to their own choices and hard work. Also said she wanted her DC to be taught scientific thought and not muddy the waters with religious stories. Then (without a hint of irony- she frequently mentions astrology) ended the discussion with 'but then I am a scorpio!'

Hahaha yes! That is a bit hypocritical of your friend. I also don't get why she thinks there being a God means making good choices and working hard are mutually exclusive either. Whatever fate/God has in store for us, we can surely help ourselves a bit by hard work/better choices.

For instance, my life is not perfect but my sibling has chosen the drink/drugs route making things a million times harder.

@FurTeacup

This is what she actually “predicted”:

“The New World Order Between Monday, January 6th and Monday, January 13th, 2020, there will be a critical change in the balance of power between the United States, China and Europe. One Last Note – Post-Millennium Bugs, Hackers and Viruses. As an astrologer, I always deal with American readers who type day, month and year dates in reverse order to British and Australian calendar dates. Yet, no matter how you key in the date of the eclipse on 10th January 2020, you end up with what looks like a memorable code. I am going to leave this with you. This is not my area. But I need to mention it. Over to you! This eclipse falls right in the extreme Capricorn ‘change’ weather zone.”

So, no, she didn’t predict the coronavirus. She vaguely waffled and mentioned the word
virus in relation to computer viruses. She’s then later gone back and fitted her “prediction” to what actually happened.

This news story is in lots and lots of
media outlets and none of have actually included the text of her “prediction”. I wonder why...

www.jessicaadams.com/2020/02/15/chinas-virus-economy/

Did anyone hear the story recently about Madonna not letting someone produce one of her albums because of his star sign? Imagine turning down someone for a job they're perfectly qualified for because they were born on a certain date. Batshit.

there will be a critical change in the balance of power between the United States, China and Europe

Well, China's economy is bouncing back nicely and they dominate PPE manufacturing...

I once met a woman who siad she could never be friends with a scorpio Horrible attitude

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