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Do you like believe in Astrology?

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Peace92 · 08/10/2020 23:07

Do you believe in astrology?
What's your primal triad?
Sun-
Moon-
Rising-

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lazylinguist · 09/10/2020 12:34

It would be interesting to hear peoples perspective on religion also.

Also made-up.

Peace92 · 09/10/2020 12:36

@TwilightSkies

Oh Wow good for you!! SmileWhich part of the chart did you study first.

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Sapiophile · 09/10/2020 12:37

It would be interesting to hear peoples perspective on religion also.

A deeply human desire to impose a meaningful pattern on existence and to remove the fear of death (with a side order of controlling female bodies, reproduction and sexuality), but absolutely a man-made system.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Peace92 · 09/10/2020 12:38

Science is small minded!! Doesn't think out side the box. Why does everything have to be explained or have the evidence to back.

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Sapiophile · 09/10/2020 12:41

@Peace92

Science is small minded!! Doesn't think out side the box. Why does everything have to be explained or have the evidence to back.
Seriously? Would you like to be treated for cancer (or indeed vaccinated for coronavirus) without 'evidence to back' up the treatment?

Would you prefer someone to smudge you with sage or a shaman to summon his spirit animal to carry away the negative energies from your tumour? Hmm

Oliversmumsarmy · 09/10/2020 12:42

Nope it's a load of bollocks. How anyone can think that everyone in the world fits into one of those personality types just based on their birthday is utterly beyond me

What do you mean 1 of those personality traits.

Astrology gives gazillions of personality traits and it isn’t just based on your birth date. Where and when plays a big part as well

Anyone can make up any amount of detail they like and put it in a chart

How?

You do your chart and it doesn’t change, you can’t just move the sun into a different house or sign unless you physically move location

BillywilliamV · 09/10/2020 12:42

I know, look back and check out all the horoscopes issued in February of this year. If any of them indicate that we would all be locked in our houses for 12 weeks and then have our liberties severely curtailed for the rest of the year, then I will believe in astrology.

BillywilliamV · 09/10/2020 12:46

Oliversarmy

Wouldn't that mean that all the babies born in a hospital on oany one night would have the same chart..

Honestly, how sane people can pretend this is any kind of science is beyond me. If you want to study the stars buy a telescope.

kursaalflyer · 09/10/2020 12:48

Astrology and religion are the same. Whatever you believe in you then fit what happens to you into it, if it's something negative you say it's to make you stronger/ the prediction was for something else etc.

Peace92 · 09/10/2020 12:48

@Sapiophile

I'm talking about the unexplainable not vaccines and cancer treatment!!

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chillicheesebuns · 09/10/2020 12:50

I completely don't believe in astrology in any way, as I know it's unscientific illogical claptrap.

And yet I am 10000000% stereotypical Capricorn, and when I met my current guy I thought he was a Leo and couldn't process it because he's the most un-Leo like person ever, then I found out they'd written down the wrong birth month and he was actually a Cancer, and he's 100% pure Cancer.

I realised that's hypocritical. I know it's nonsense. And yet, I can't help it!

Oliversmumsarmy · 09/10/2020 12:51

Would you like to be treated for cancer (or indeed vaccinated for coronavirus) without 'evidence to back' up the treatment

Astrology isn’t about a cure it is about a warning of what could be ahead.

Everyone has free will but astrology can tell you the best time’s to do big things that will make things go much easier

Brockwell · 09/10/2020 12:52

@Peace92 I think astrology is superstitious nonsense, just like religion.

Anyone here read Troubled Blood by Robert Galbraith/JKR?

Oliversmumsarmy · 09/10/2020 12:53

Wouldn't that mean that all the babies born in a hospital on oany one night would have the same chart

No. Unless they were all born at the same precise time.

lazylinguist · 09/10/2020 12:58

What do you mean 1 of those personality traits. Astrology gives gazillions of personality traits and it isn’t just based on your birth date. Where and when plays a big part as well

I said 'personality types', not traits. A trait is only one aspect of a person's personality.

Im any case, why would stars have an effect on your personality? Confused

Anyone can make up any amount of detail they like and put it in a chart How?

Well you're surely not suggesting the 'information' was handed down by someone who actually has proof that it's true? So it is all made up. And put in a chart. So when you do your chart, where do all the details you get come from? Presumably they come from whoever made it all up! From whoever decided that 'When the sun is in the x,y or z house, that means that you are x, y or z' etc. It doesn't matter whether they made it up 1000 years ago or last Tuesday - doesn't make it true.

lazylinguist · 09/10/2020 13:01

I'm talking about the unexplainable

Some people just like the idea that there are mysterious things. They don't want them to be explainable. Personally I'd rather get my mystery and fantasy fix from fiction and fable, and keep reality real.

LivingOnAnIsland · 09/10/2020 13:03

Like? Are you 12?

Peace92 · 09/10/2020 13:05

But heres the thing, noone really knows!! Science cant explain everything so how can you know with 100% certainty that it's not.

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Peace92 · 09/10/2020 13:07

@LivingOnAnIsland

Why are you being disrespectful? If you didnt like the thread why come on ?

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lazylinguist · 09/10/2020 13:11

But heres the thing, noone really knows!! Science cant explain everything so how can you know with 100% certainty that it's not

But you could say that about an awful lot of made-up things, because it's pretty impossible to prove that something doesn't exist. I could say that I believe Cornish pixies or flying elephants exist. You can't prove they don't, you can only say that you've never seen them. That doesn't mean it's not ridiculous to believe they exist.

Spybot · 09/10/2020 13:12

I believe in it. My mother is an astrologer. I also have my favorite celebrity astrologers I follow, Susan Miller in the US and Russell Grant.

I use astrology as a guide as to where to put my energy, to understand the tough times (currently going through my half Uranus) and to understand others. It helps me a lot.

I am

Sun- Leo
Moon- Gemini
Rising- Libra

Oliversmumsarmy · 09/10/2020 13:13

Astrology and religion are the same. Whatever you believe in you then fit what happens to you into it, if it's something negative you say it's to make you stronger/ the prediction was for something else etc

I have done families charts and all their personalities were exactly as their Natal chart said.

All except me.
My Natal chart just wasn’t me.

It had me as Aries rising. Someone who is quick and flys into things without any thought.
No one could say I am like that.

Then a few months ago I found out not only my place of birth was wrong but also my time of birth was 50 minutes later

I now have Taurus rising and some planets are now in different houses and it is me.

Like chillicheesebuns I knew my chart didn’t match my personality and could read charts for other people but for myself it never was quite right.

I even have the wrong town of birth on my birth certificate

Sapiophile · 09/10/2020 13:15

[quote Peace92]@Sapiophile

I'm talking about the unexplainable not vaccines and cancer treatment!![/quote]
With the greatest respect, OP, illness used to be 'unexplainable' until modern medicine (a subcategory of science) explained it and developed effective treatments -- pre-modern theories of illness attributed it to divine anger, imbalance of the humours, miasmas etc.

DillonPanthersTexas · 09/10/2020 13:23

Science is small minded!! Doesn't think out side the box.

This is such a mind bogglingly stupid statement I am struggling to believe you are not trolling. 'Science' is a continuous process of thinking outside the box as it seeks to explain the unknown and builds on existing knowledge via testable explanations and peer reviewed research.

Why does everything have to be explained or have the evidence to back.

Because if we are to advance our understanding of the universe we need to search for evidence to back up hypothesis and predictions about what we don't know. We understand the weather because curious minds endeavoured to try and explain why it rains, why the wind blows etc thus meteorology was born. We could have just explained it away as angry gods or whatever but I am glad our ancestors put superstition to one side and started ask the question 'why?'

Level75 · 09/10/2020 13:29

@Peace92 "science is small minded".

I'm astounded by this statement. Science is all about pushing the boundaries of knowledge - that's why we know so much more than we used to. If science was small minded we'd still believe that doing a rain dance brought rain, or that praying caused a good harvest, or that the configuration of the planets influenced personality.

Historically philosophy and science were practically the same thing - it was all about being open minded, free thinking, putting forward ideas and seeing how they panned out evidentially. Now they are more separate as science has advanced so far.

Belief without analysis is small minded because it refuses to yield to evidence. Science is all about changing our views based on new data/evidence.

Personally I can't believe in something without a good reason. I understand that people do believe in things with no good reason (religion). That's fine as long as that doesn't negatively impact on anyone else. Unfortunately most irrational beliefs do have a negative impact.