I'm a fucking HOUSEWIFE?

[ToadinTheHoleWithKetchup]

Just had the car insurance renewal on DH's car. I am a named driver, and the details listed state that I am a 'housewife'. How the fuck is this even a category?

OMG why do you care

I am actually a housewife. I’m not trained in any particular profession. I had multiple jobs before my children were born & have not returned to work in 12+ years. Im perfectly happy with the the term housewife.

@Namechangr9000

*It's surely considered invalid if the form and the agreement boxes agreeing to the terms and conditions and so on are not filled out by the person who is taking out the insurance.

Essentially you are taking out a contract in another persons name. That isn't legal..so if the insurer didn't want to pay out and then found out that the insurance policy had not been taken out by the insured then it wouldn't be valid and they wouldn't have to stick to it!*

I fill in the forms because I have more time, am quicker at it and because DH is dyslexic. I save them on confused etc, show him the cheapest options and we discuss which one is best. He calls up his old insurer to check they can't match the price/cancel, so it's not as if he doesnt know about it.

What a palaver - why can't YOU just decide what's best & do it?

[quote Poptasmagorical]@MJMG2015 there a lot of factors to consider, really. For me personally, I’d prefer to use what I’m trained as, even if I’m not currently doing it. I don’t think I would use SAHP even if it was an option, as I hate having my identity being limited to having pushed a couple of kids out.
The problem with ‘housewife’ isn’t anything to do with the role, it’s the outdated notion that a woman is defined by her marital status and whether she stays in the home. It’s everyday sexism and it’s insidious. Even ‘homemaker’ is better than housewife, and I bet that made you wince and think of your gran. Housewife just should not exist as a category.[/quote]
But you can't (or rather shouldn't) put an occupation you once did in a car insurance form, if you're no longer doing it!

They're not asking to judge you, they're asking to assess risk...they need to know how you spend your time, not that you once were an accountant.

& no, there's not a lot of factors to consider. They want to know what you do, day to day. It's really not difficult.

@MJMG2015 exactly
This reminds me of when I ask customer's occupation at work and they say 'I'm retired but worked in police force as head constable for 20 years' or such like ... And I'll just put retired down! Not bothered about what they used to do!!

Meh, carers aren't even listed........ Just sums up how invisible we are

They should be listed they're listed where I work. It's bad if that's not down there

How have you failed to see the irony here?.. Posting on Mum's Net because you feel like the term 'housewife' makes your inferior. You're really pitching this to the wrong audience.

Haven't you got Avon to be delivering?

Or the right audience if looking to upset/ wind up women.

@putneydad

Since your choice of language is quite coarse, perhaps something like ‘slapper’ would be more appropriate ? And your implication that housewife is somehow a denigrating term denigrates the millions of women worldwide who spend their lives courageously , earnestly , bringing up their kids , running their households and supporting their partners / husbands . Nothing wrong with that !!!!

Whoa there @putneydad! I don’t agree with the OP’s complaining, given that she filled in the form herself, but it is WAY out of order to call a woman a “slapper” just because she chose to express herself by swearing. I don’t know how long you have been around Mumsnet but it is a very sweary site and your notion that women are “coarse” if they swear is both anachronistic and misogynistic.

Congratulations.... I dont see what the fuss is all about. 1950s 1990s 2020s who cares. Your alive and well. Have a good day housewifey 😳

My children are mainly grown up. At uni so I’m not really a SAHM. I’m very proud and happy to be a housewife. How sad for those who feel bad about their life that they’re upset to be called a housewife.

@minmooch

I couldn't work up the energy to be offended by this.

Either you are a housewife/stay at home parent or you get paid for work. As you keep being so evasive over your actual job just ring up the insurers and tell them your profession - drama over.

Exactly.

If this is a concern to you.. you have too much time on your hands !!! I couldnt give two hoots what someone lists as my job title
They can put down extra terrestrial for all I care. It's wrong I know but I can actually just imagine what the original poster is like ! I know lots of them!

@loobylou10

WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPATION?

Definitely a boss babe Hunbot. You don’t run you’re own business love, you’re just a glorified commission only sales representative

"you’re just a glorified commission only sales representative"

That's not what an MLM bot is. Sales rep 🤩 yeah right. The only "sales" are the ones they pay for themselves.

Self employed = MLM or prostitution, really? What I do is irrelevant. Well, not to your insurer. Or to you if you find their guesstimate or the pisstake guesstimates here to heart.

From what is is possible to glean from your posts:

You sent in the insurance document
They put you down as the default 'housefwife' - bt 1950s, agreedYou come here to have a rant
You are rude
You can't/won't say what it is you are self employed as, rendering both your insurer and your MN audience incapable of anything other than defaulting, taking the mickey etc.

Short version: you made a mistake on the paperwork, correct it!

😱😱😱😱😱Fantastic housewifey responses. May the housewives live on....

@MJMG2015 I've never had to deal with insurance as I don't drive, so I don't have any experience to draw upon. The thing is that right now I'd say I was a parent carer and you asked what I'd put if I didn't have children.
The problem with the terms housewife and unemployed are that they don't allow for an assessment of risk either, really. You might put housewife instead of unemployed because you're not seeking a job, but your risk could be higher because you spend all day out doing dangerous hobbies. I don't know, I'm generalising.
I thought the op was talking about the category existing at all rather than it turning in to an attack on her for (potentially) being an MLM Hun. The category shouldn't exist. It's not for the average mumsnet user to come up with an alternative, though. Like insurance companies are going to be wading through our discussion!
To (eventually!) answer your question, I don't know what I'd put because I don't know what the other options are
In case of tone problems, nothing in here is arsey. I've enjoyed talking to you.

@Poptasmagorical the risk assessments are not perfect and I don't think that anyone is saying they necessarily agree with all of them but it's just how insurance companies work which is why they need to know your occupation

What a palaver - why can't YOU just decide what's best & do it?

I do for my own insurance policy. I dont need his opinion or approval for any of that but I'm saying I sort out (the form part) his car insurance because I am much quicker at it and a more persistent bargain hunter than him. But PP have said this is fraudulent

Occupation : her indoors

@Bioprepper

Occupation : her indoors

Ball and chain?

@Bioprepper

Occupation : her indoors

The missus?