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Friend asked DPs salary. Now she's being weird with me. Feeling really hurt

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SauvignonExtraChilled · 17/08/2020 18:12

Hi,

So my friend and I have known each other for roughly 10 years. We hit it off straight away and even though we don't actually see each other that often, we, I would have said anyway, are very close.

Anyway, over the past 5 or so years, our lives have gone in different directions. She broke up from her long term partner (father of her dc) and since then hasn't been lucky in love, to put it mildly. She also lost her job a year ago and has been on benefits whilst trying to start her own business. I moved away (not that far) and married DP and are financially very comfortable. I have never spoken about money, but it will be obvious I suppose, given we have a bigger house in a more expensive area etc.

Earlier in the year (before covid....those were the days) we were out and had had a few cocktails and she just came out and asked what DP earned. I was a bit taken aback and remember actually blushing, which I don't really do! It wasn't just the fact that she asked me, it was the way that she asked me. I nervously laughed "you can't ask that" to which she replied, "what's the big secret? I want to know how you can afford to live in x". I felt almost compelled and so I told her, which obviously now I regret, but I didn't want to appear secretive or rude, which was almost what she was implying.

Straight away, she looks cold. Almost pissed off actually and said something along the lines of "it's alright for some". I remember feeling really awkward and the night was cut short.

I put it down to too much booze and wasn't going to bring it up and just wanted to pretend it hadn't happened.

Since then though, every time we talk she manages to steer the conversation to the subject of money. It's actually bloody tiring. I feel like I have to watch everything I say now. Don't get me wrong, I was always sensitive and mindful of her situation, so would absolutely never brag, but now I feel like we can't even chat about every day mundane things without her making me feel guilty or spoilt.

I was nearly in tears the last time we spoke, because she asked "how are things in your perfect life then?".

She knows how far from perfect it is. I've had it tough for a very long time. Poor MH, bad past relationship, very difficult DC. I would be genuinely over the moon if things were better for her! And I would have been, regardless of my own financial situation.

The strangest thing is, she's always put very little value on money.

I don't want our friendship to fizzle out - I genuinely love her to bits, but if this continues, I can't see how we can continue to be friends.

WWYD? Am I right to be upset? Is this fixable?

OP posts:
Petronas · 20/08/2020 08:41

It sounds like some of the mums on this thread live off their partners/ husbands money and they are obviously comfortable doing this. Personally I just wouldn’t find it rewarding 🤷‍♀️
Everyone is different
But how would this work on a practical basis? If your dh earns 10 times your salary how do you live in a house that you didn't pay your share (50%) for, how do you decorate it - what holidays do you go on - do you only eat in cheaper restaurants? Do you only accept cheaper gifts from him. How do the kids get treated - who's budget are they subject to?
When sharing a life with someone who out-earns you to a ridiculous degree - do you decide that everything you have together has to be dictated by your budget because otherwise you wouldn't feel right?

Nobblybobblies · 20/08/2020 08:42

@Biilie82

Do you mean people think the OP should divorce her dh because he earns more money than her, or should she not have been "allowed" to marry him in the first place? Or should he not be "allowed" to share his money with his dw? I confused about why other people feel they would need to agree or disagree about the OP's situation? Surely the only two people needing to agree are the OP and her dh.

Where did anyone say about not being ‘allowed’ to marry someone.
Completely missed the point- some people prefer not to rely on others money and wage. I’d prefer to have less and know I worked for it, be proud and that nobody could take it away from me.
I’m saying people have different values and there is nothing wrong with that.
It sounds like some of the mums on this thread live off their partners/ husbands money and they are obviously comfortable doing this. Personally I just wouldn’t find it rewarding 🤷‍♀️
Everyone is different 🤷‍♀️

I completely agree Billie and you are right as lots of people have different values. Most don’t value worth by money. It’s alright to measure your worth by money because we are all different.
Petronas · 20/08/2020 08:43

Sorry bold fail!

It sounds like some of the mums on this thread live off their partners/ husbands money and they are obviously comfortable doing* this. Personally I just wouldn’t find it rewarding 🤷‍♀️
Everyone is different

But how would this work on a practical basis? If your dh earns 10 times your salary how do you live in a house that you didn't pay your share (50%) for, how do you decorate it - what holidays do you go on - do you only eat in cheaper restaurants? Do you only accept cheaper gifts from him. How do the kids get treated - who's budget are they subject to?
When sharing a life with someone who out-earns you to a ridiculous degree - do you decide that everything you have together has to be dictated by your budget because otherwise you wouldn't feel right?

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Nobblybobblies · 20/08/2020 08:43

@Petronas I think that Billie was just having a little bit of fun on the Internet last night. Naughty Billie.

SauvignonExtraChilled · 20/08/2020 09:02

@Biilie82, I still don't understand this point. How exactly does this work in a relationship?....

So two people meet - one is a teacher and one is finance director and so will almost certainly have very different salaries. Should they never live together? Should the teacher go on a camping holiday, whilst the finance director goes on a luxury cruise? Should the teacher get their shopping from a budget supermarket, whilst the finance director gets theirs from a high end supermarket?

I'm just not sure how you think this would work. It wouldn't, would it?

It sounds like you (not you personally) need to either stay single, find someone with the exact same income, or do the above......

Or am I missing something?

OP posts:
Astrid09 · 23/08/2020 06:22

I don't understand the comments about those living off their partners wage.
When me and DH moved in together we had a joint account. Said wages went into that account all bills paid including food whats left goes part to save and whats left is there to spend on whatever. Do couples married or just living together still do this.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 23/08/2020 15:03

DH earns six times what I do! We have an equal partnership. All money is “family” money. I’m better at spending it than he is 😃.

Most of our friends know roughly what we earn because we are public sector workers so easy to work out. However, no one would be rude enough to actually ASK us!

Touchmybum · 25/08/2020 01:27

Well I for one would be happy to live off my partner's income if only he earned enough for that!!!

areyoubeingserviced · 25/08/2020 08:01

I don’t ever tell anyone ( friends or family) how much I earn. It can often lead to jealousy and resentment.
One thing that MN has taught me is that people are obsessed with other people’s financial status .
I know people who go onto Companies House website to find out how much someone else’s company is making and even use google map to look at someone’s house. Totally creepy imo
The truth is that OP’s friend is jealous and resentful . She is not a friend
Also, these posters who continue to focus on the fact that the money is the dh’s money also come across as petty and resentful. She is married and the money is family money.

Ellamiss · 25/08/2020 09:22

@areyoubeingserviced

I don’t ever tell anyone ( friends or family) how much I earn. It can often lead to jealousy and resentment. One thing that MN has taught me is that people are obsessed with other people’s financial status . I know people who go onto Companies House website to find out how much someone else’s company is making and even use google map to look at someone’s house. Totally creepy imo The truth is that OP’s friend is jealous and resentful . She is not a friend Also, these posters who continue to focus on the fact that the money is the dh’s money also come across as petty and resentful. She is married and the money is family money.
I have seen that on another forum and they became completely obsessed with the person...frightening behaviour. Money and jealousy brings out some awful traits in others.
MummyMayo1988 · 27/08/2020 19:09

I always feel like this with my sisters.
I'm 32, they are 26 and 24.
DP and I bought our first home at 24. We have 3 DC and managed to get married on a budget. I'm also a SAHM.
If (not often because I avoid it) the subject of money comes up; one always makes the point of how "lucky" I am.
DP and I have been together 14 years this year. We had a plan from the beginning. We have both worked hard and saved and gone without to get to where we are. It required a lot of sacrifices. She on the other hand; wanted a new car. Quite college after a few months and bounced around doing different jobs as she couldn't find her calling. Now its suddenly occurred to her that she's 26, been with her DP for 8 years and wants to do all the things she thinks she "should" be doing even though neither can really afford it.
I often feel guilty but ultimately think NO! We worked hard. Its not our fault other people choose not too.

I agree with other posters; you need to tell your friend straight!

Bridgiepoo · 28/09/2020 09:49

Sorry if this has already been said - nineteen thousand is a long thread to suddenly join - but your friend sounds REALLY down at the moment. A good friend is worth a bit of effort, and she has reached out in a sort of passive way... her snipes sound like a plea for understanding from a person too proud to ask outright. Ask her what's wrong, and be her rock; she's worth it.

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