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The joy has been sucked out of everything

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supadoopa · 24/07/2020 22:36

Let me start by saying I’m in Scotland so this isn’t about masks per se, but about the whole silly dance we are being made to do in order to go about our lives at the moment.

I went to a shopping centre today and won't be back.

It’s the first time I’ve worn a mask for any longer than a quick run into the local coop. I was probably in the centre for an hour and a half but there was sweat pouring down my neck. I felt suffocated and silenced. Hated it.

My baby looked at me like I was a monster and my toddler couldn’t hear me when I talked.

But it wasn’t just masks that were the issue. There was a ludicrous one way system, which makes absolutely no sense to me if we are wearing masks and social distancing. Then every shop had a makeshift entry and exit and their own one way system which no one was observing.

At every turn I was being monitored by security guards, eyeballing me in anticipation of a wrongdoing, ready to pounce.

Almost every shop had a guard on duty forcing you to rub gel on your hands and that of my child before entering.

There were queues everywhere. All but one set of toilets shut, so queue for that too, and toilets themselves as dirty as ever because so many people using the same ones and no cleaning.

Inexplicably in most shops all but one set of tills were shut, again forcing people to congregate in long queues.

All the restaurants were again inexplicably closed apart from, yep, McDonalds and Costa. Both under small enclaves at the back of the centre. But in them you are allowed to take your mask off and eat off a table more or less. But in the main, high roofed wide open walkways of the centre, the mask must go back on.

The shops had little stock.

When I dared approach an M&S assistant to ask for a size (with a visor on like all the rest of the assistants at an angle that perfectly channels their exhalations directly at the person they’re talking too) I was barked at as if I was a naughty schoolgirl to the extent that I put the item back on the rack and walked out without buying anything.

Does anyone else think this is all utterly ludicrous?

Shops will not survive this.

We are all adults with our own minds and perfectly able to manage our selves. Why make masks mandatory if we then have to do all this makeshift posturing to appear to be avoiding each other when really we are being herded closer together.

As someone who you might consider a “hobby shopper” as in it’s one of my pastimes (and I’m not interested in any opinions about having a better hobby, if there weren’t millions like me there wouldn’t be any shops at all). I’m someone who will browse and buy, will pick up bits I don’t really need but just want. I will spend my money happily- if the experience gives me pleasure.

But now I think it’s going to be online for me. I won’t be back at the shopping centre. I won’t be visiting our city centre either as it’s just the same.

OP posts:
Mychitchatdays · 24/07/2020 23:31

Change your mask. The best I've found for long periods of wearing time are the disposable ones. Not the most economical or environmental friendly, but I can wear them for hours.

Biffsboys · 24/07/2020 23:31

Op - I’m thinking you were in braehead around the same time as me ! The sweat was pouring off me , my ds (12) was too warm .
One of the shop assistants told me the air conditioning is off because of Covid .
There is absolutely no pleasure in it at all ...

bashcrashfall · 24/07/2020 23:32

Taking a baby and a toddler to a shopping centre would be pretty unpleasant at the best of times.

I don't like wearing masks but wasn't planning on going in person to any shops anyway. A quick pop to the local co-op if desperate maybe but thats it.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 24/07/2020 23:34

I’m sorry you feel this way @supadoopa but your post has been quite comforting to know I’m not alone in feeling like this.

We’ve come this far and I feel more ‘locked down’ than I’ve ever done - I struggle to wear a mask so I’m looking at getting everything delivered and having to suck up the extra cost. This means I can’t ‘pop out’ to the shops or even just enjoy my weekly food shop (I bloody love food shopping) and have a bit of human interaction because all I see are blank faces. It’s utterly miserable.

@HolyCorona Oh fuck off with your whataboutery.

DisobedientHamster · 24/07/2020 23:34

@Dashel

It’s so depressing. Wtf are you supposed to do on a weekend now? Everything is either closed or just depressing with regulations and stares if you dare to be in the wrong place as you need to psychically know when other people want to look at something in the 10m vicinity of where you are.

It’s just horrible

You just gave the Dementors and Judgey People their in. You're supposed to spend the weekends balancing your chakras or in otherwise worthy enriching activities.
supadoopa · 24/07/2020 23:36

@Biffsboys well that actually makes sense if that’s the case, I thought it was just the mask making me feel hot and weird but maybe it’s the air con

And @bashcrashfall it used to be a great way to spend a wet afternoon, of which we have many, as they used to have small play areas for the kids, it’s dry and flat and a big open space for toddling about, you can get lunch or a coffee, great spaces for baby changing and feeding, easy to park and roll straight in... lots of positives. Now, mostly negatives!

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MayFayre · 24/07/2020 23:37

OP - couldn’t agree more.

Abitupthehill · 24/07/2020 23:38

Boo fucking hoo. Get a proper mask with a vent in and you won’t be so over dramatically over heated. Thank god you never had to wear a gas mask or go into an air raid shelter you precious thing

HollyBen · 24/07/2020 23:38

I spend 3 months in Singapore in 30 degree heat and god awful humidity wearing a mask from the minute I left the house till the minute I returned. As did my children. Was it pleasant? No! Would it be my choice? No! Did I do it? Absolutely! Did I survive? It would seem I did. Back in the UK now. I know it is all relative re heat, but seriously. Get a grip. Is it shit? Off course. But if it saves just one life isn't it worth it?

AncoraAmarena · 24/07/2020 23:38

I got told off in TK Maxx the other day for picking something up (to take to the checkout). The woman was quite rude in the way that she said it. I asked how I was meant to buy something if I couldn't pick it up and she said that the manager had told her to go around saying this to people. I said she might like to feed back to the manager that people won't buy things if they can't pick them up.

I mean. WTF? I am fed up with this shit.

shrill · 24/07/2020 23:38

Totally understand and agree with you OP. Professionalism left shops decades ago and now is so evidently lacking no proper training or understanding of how the company should portray itself.
I will continue to shop for essentials only and online where possible otherwise will make do. Plus as the rain isn't here yet it means shoes and clothes etc are lasting longer with staying home too.

Heatherjayne1972 · 24/07/2020 23:40

It’s not just the mask tho is it
It’s the bossy judgy security guards and shop staff that will put people off shopping
I’m with you on that one op

MrsTravers · 24/07/2020 23:41

I popped to the shop this morning. My mum sent us masks a while ago and mine seemed fine. No issue, I thought. Except I was wearing glasses and it was a complete pain. Kept falling off, glasses kept slipping off my ear. Won't be doing that again in a hurry!
As if the high st needs any more pressure.

Can I ask if anyone, esp those in Scotland who have been doing this for a while, have tried other options? I often wear scarves and understand that they are acceptable as face coverings. Everyone here seems to be wearing masks but I had understood scarves were acceptable too. Would get round the whole mask pinging off ear and dislodging glasses thing!

Jaxhog · 24/07/2020 23:41

Ye gods, it's not as shite as DYING from COVID.

Of course it's tough. It's a Pandemic! No-one should expect this to be easy. Complain about being very sick, complain about dying or complain about losing your job. But a little inconvenience or shortness by shop staff? Don't you think THEY"RE suffering too?

bashcrashfall · 24/07/2020 23:42

Ah, we don't have any like that around here! Shopping is parking half a mile from the shopping centre, waiting ten minutes for a lift and then trying to stop toddler being knocked over by people rushing around all over the place or knocking over any displays because the shop aisles aren't wide enough. The only nice thing about it is the cake and the view in the John Lewis cafe.

IceCreamSummer20 · 24/07/2020 23:42

Of course it is uncomfortable and takes getting used to.

But all this whining and complaining reminds me of children having a tantrum. Just grow up! It’s a lot better than giving covid19 to a shop worker who has to be in their mask all sodding day for low pay just so that you can come in and complain about their one way system.

MissEliza · 24/07/2020 23:44

@Yaottie yes!! It seemed today that social distancing went out the window. I do not trust that the masks Joe public is wearing are effective so I still want them to keep their bloody distance.

Leflic · 24/07/2020 23:44

@Abitupthehill

Boo fucking hoo. Get a proper mask with a vent in and you won’t be so over dramatically over heated. Thank god you never had to wear a gas mask or go into an air raid shelter you precious thing
It’s not just the mask though. It’s the confusion of not knowing where to go or what each shop expects of you. Where to queue, how to move around, where to pay or how to get out just make a simple trip incredibly stressful.
Branches1 · 24/07/2020 23:44

I agree with everything you said OP. I will be avoiding all shops as far as possible until this madness stops. Unless it’s available online I am not buying it. Going shopping is thoroughly unpleasant at the moment.

IceCreamSummer20 · 24/07/2020 23:44

You just gave the Dementors and Judgey People their in. You're supposed to spend the weekends balancing your chakras or in otherwise worthy enriching activities. You can grow up too!

reluctantbrit · 24/07/2020 23:45

I do miss shopping for leisure and try to take a teen DD in adult size to buy clothes without the option to try them on.

But, I wear masks for shopping since May, I wore them on a 45 minute commute twice now as I had to go to the office.

It is possible, lots of other countries already have masks mandatory since ages, my elderly PIL and my mum back in Germany wear them without comments on public transport and in shops since April.

I think while it is not a lot of fun wearing them, it is necessary and possible. Get a grip please or bunker yourself at home and just let us go on in peace.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 24/07/2020 23:46

@supadoopa

Yes I have my own gel in my bag so why would I touch a bottle touched by hundreds before me just to qualify for entry to your shop?
Why would it matter how many people have touched the bottle before you?
supadoopa · 24/07/2020 23:50

@Jaxhog

Ye gods, it's not as shite as DYING from COVID.

Of course it's tough. It's a Pandemic! No-one should expect this to be easy. Complain about being very sick, complain about dying or complain about losing your job. But a little inconvenience or shortness by shop staff? Don't you think THEY"RE suffering too?

Hmmm I don’t really get this argument.

Firstly as a young otherwise healthy woman I have a tiny, tiny chance of dying from covid. There are only 20 cases overnight in Scotland so I think that’s a 1 in 13000 or something chance of catching it. Most of our cases are currently in care or hospital settings too. Not community transmission. I’m really not worried about dying from covid.

Secondly, if they don’t like what they have to do for their job, they could always apply for something else. My company just made 200 people redundant. They can join the back of that queue.

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Yubaba · 24/07/2020 23:50

I went to our local town centre today for mooch about and it was awful. I didn’t stay long, less than an hour. I was hot and miserable, people were getting too close to me because obviously their homemade mask is now a magic force field and they now no longer need to social distance.

I wear PPE all day at work so I am used to it but today was awful.

MrsEricBana · 24/07/2020 23:51

It is what it is, it's a global pandemic, many, many people have died or become sick. Maybe shopping for fun will have to wait for now.

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