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The joy has been sucked out of everything

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supadoopa · 24/07/2020 22:36

Let me start by saying I’m in Scotland so this isn’t about masks per se, but about the whole silly dance we are being made to do in order to go about our lives at the moment.

I went to a shopping centre today and won't be back.

It’s the first time I’ve worn a mask for any longer than a quick run into the local coop. I was probably in the centre for an hour and a half but there was sweat pouring down my neck. I felt suffocated and silenced. Hated it.

My baby looked at me like I was a monster and my toddler couldn’t hear me when I talked.

But it wasn’t just masks that were the issue. There was a ludicrous one way system, which makes absolutely no sense to me if we are wearing masks and social distancing. Then every shop had a makeshift entry and exit and their own one way system which no one was observing.

At every turn I was being monitored by security guards, eyeballing me in anticipation of a wrongdoing, ready to pounce.

Almost every shop had a guard on duty forcing you to rub gel on your hands and that of my child before entering.

There were queues everywhere. All but one set of toilets shut, so queue for that too, and toilets themselves as dirty as ever because so many people using the same ones and no cleaning.

Inexplicably in most shops all but one set of tills were shut, again forcing people to congregate in long queues.

All the restaurants were again inexplicably closed apart from, yep, McDonalds and Costa. Both under small enclaves at the back of the centre. But in them you are allowed to take your mask off and eat off a table more or less. But in the main, high roofed wide open walkways of the centre, the mask must go back on.

The shops had little stock.

When I dared approach an M&S assistant to ask for a size (with a visor on like all the rest of the assistants at an angle that perfectly channels their exhalations directly at the person they’re talking too) I was barked at as if I was a naughty schoolgirl to the extent that I put the item back on the rack and walked out without buying anything.

Does anyone else think this is all utterly ludicrous?

Shops will not survive this.

We are all adults with our own minds and perfectly able to manage our selves. Why make masks mandatory if we then have to do all this makeshift posturing to appear to be avoiding each other when really we are being herded closer together.

As someone who you might consider a “hobby shopper” as in it’s one of my pastimes (and I’m not interested in any opinions about having a better hobby, if there weren’t millions like me there wouldn’t be any shops at all). I’m someone who will browse and buy, will pick up bits I don’t really need but just want. I will spend my money happily- if the experience gives me pleasure.

But now I think it’s going to be online for me. I won’t be back at the shopping centre. I won’t be visiting our city centre either as it’s just the same.

OP posts:
Ilovegreentomatoes · 25/07/2020 15:48

@GalesThisMorning I wouldn't be seeking sympathy from someone like yourself. FWIW my mental health is fine I was thinking of others .

Ilovegreentomatoes · 25/07/2020 15:51

@GalesThisMorning you can fuck of to.

GalesThisMorning · 25/07/2020 15:51

[quote Ilovegreentomatoes]@GalesThisMorning I wouldn't be seeking sympathy from someone like yourself. FWIW my mental health is fine I was thinking of others .[/quote]
You are clearly a kind, compassionate soul with a real sense of how others have struggled. My grandparents were placed in concentration camps. I can promise you wearing a mask to buy a week's worth of food is not the same level of hardship. Grow up.

Ilovegreentomatoes · 25/07/2020 15:55

I am actually a kind compassionate person and as I mentioned if you had bothered to read the thread I in no way wanted to compare holocaust victims so please drop it .

SockYarn · 25/07/2020 15:55

it doesn’t have to be competitive misery does it ?

@Nearlyoldenoughtowearpurple you haven't been around MN much during lockdown, have you? Grin

GrumpiestOldWoman · 25/07/2020 15:56

Sockyarn

Grin
Longwhiskers14 · 25/07/2020 15:58

SockYarn

Grin
GoldenOmber · 25/07/2020 15:58

@Ilovegreentomatoes

I am actually a kind compassionate person and as I mentioned if you had bothered to read the thread I in no way wanted to compare holocaust victims so please drop it .
You did say it was like living in a Nazi controlled state though and surely you can see why that's taking it a bit far? I mean the problem with the Warsaw ghetto was not that the guards at the entrance wanted people to use hand sanitiser.
Everybloodybottleunderthesun · 25/07/2020 15:58

Same, I’m just done with it. I fantasise about doing fun things again then it’s not fun at all. I am weirdly dreaming a lot about my wild party days of old at the moment and feeling Nostalgic and longing for the proper fun times which probably says a lot. Although I see it’s very irresponsible, I completely get all the people going to the illegal raves currently in the news

Ilovegreentomatoes · 25/07/2020 16:00

@GoldenOmber yes it probably came across wrong and I accept that.

Timekeeper1 · 25/07/2020 16:01

Respect to all those surgeons, surgical assistants and surgical nurses who wear masks for hours on end. It brings to mind a neurosurgeon who sometimes operates for 10 hours straight, no break, on a person's brain and wears the mask for that long. Wearing a mask is as natural to these people as wearing a tie or wearing shoes.

The joy has been sucked out of everything
GrumpiestOldWoman · 25/07/2020 16:03

I don't find masks fun at all, but to be honest it was having to wear a bra that I find most disagreeable, I've hardly warn one during lockdown and it's been bliss!

Nearlyoldenoughtowearpurple · 25/07/2020 16:04

@sockyarn
This is why we need a post like button 🤣🤣

GoldenOmber · 25/07/2020 16:04

[quote Ilovegreentomatoes]@GoldenOmber yes it probably came across wrong and I accept that.[/quote]
fair enough. I do think it is pretty miserable at the moment and I look forward to this glum time being over.

DisobedientHamster · 25/07/2020 16:10

So much for 'it's not about masks per se'. People will come along and bloody MAKE it about masks then. Hmm

SengaStrawberry · 25/07/2020 16:13

I tend to think of it the other way round. Yes, there are some short-term inconveniences/problems, but it's protecting us all from a potentially catastrophic virus.

And what the hell do you think the impact on the economy will be from all this? A bit more than “short term inconvenience”. It’s fucked for decades, probably the impact will be more catastrophic than the virus.

GrumpiestOldWoman · 25/07/2020 16:27

It’s fucked for decades

Unfortunately I think this would have ben the case either way.

IntermittentParps · 25/07/2020 16:33

SengaStrawberry, the impact on the economy with people starting to get back into going out to work and spend in shops/restaurants etc will be less than if we stayed maskless and locked down. Which I guess is why the government is doing it.
Don't get me wrong, I loathe our current 'leaders', but they have a basically impossible task to try to balance: protect public health but stop the spending and earning of the whole UK grinding to a halt.

SengaStrawberry · 25/07/2020 16:35

True @GrumpiestOldWoman and @IntermittentParps

AccountAntsy · 25/07/2020 16:37

Mental health seems to be being thrown under the bus here

Yes it’s funny how quickly the pendulum has swung from the increased focus on mental health, major concerns about children’s mental health in particular, that mental health is as important as physical health - to being told to shut up and get a grip if you express that you might be finding this difficult. Some of the things people have been expected to do over the past 4 months absolutely go against everything in our nature and the lack of empathy from a lot of people is staggering. Even the quote from the farm shop owner “WEAR A MASK AND BE KIND” yeah all caps lock shouting seems really fucking kind doesn’t it?

KitKat1985 · 25/07/2020 16:53

I get it OP. The masks are just one bit of the misery (and I say that as a nurse who wears masks regularly for 13 hour shifts, and is in no way anti-mask). Shopping at the moment is such a general misery. It's the constant social distanced queues for everything from popping in a shop, to the loo, to joining the queue to pay. Glared at by shop staff if you make any accidental faux pas (I entered a shop the other day and accidentally missed the hand gel at the entrance which wasn't put in a very visible place, and was practically barked at to put it on by the shop assistant). 1-way systems basically make browsing impossible, and if you realise you have missed something you feel perplexed about how you are supposed to get it. Trying to stay 2m away from everyone is a constant stress. I can't try any clothes on which for me basically takes away the whole advantage of clothes shopping instore. And just everyone looks miserable and anxious. I'm basically going to do everything I can online from now on. I'm fairly confident this will be the death knell for the high street, which has already struggled for the past few years.

GalesThisMorning · 25/07/2020 17:00

@Ilovegreentomatoes no problem. I'm glad you can see that having to wear a mask whilst shopping during a pandemic is in no way comparable to living under Nazi rule. Fair enough, you've said you didn't mean it, but that keeps getting trotted out on here when people talk about having to wear masks and it is offensive and needs to be challenged.

mbosnz · 25/07/2020 17:41

You did say it was like living in a Nazi controlled state though and surely you can see why that's taking it a bit far? I mean the problem with the Warsaw ghetto was not that the guards at the entrance wanted people to use hand sanitiser.

Beautiful! That did indeed really and literally get a 'laugh out loud' in this household. . . Grin

DisobedientHamster · 25/07/2020 17:49

How do people not 'like' being on a ventilator? This comparison is ridiculous. 'If you don't like being on a mask, you won't like being on a ventilator.' My child died on a ventilator. You're knocked out before they put it in. You're unconscious. You're not cognisant enough to think, 'Gosh, I'd much prefer my face covering from Etsy to this.' What a nasty fucking thing to throw out there, because it's a senseless comparison. And contracting C19, or any other respiratory disease, doesn't automatically mean mechanical ventilation.

Really fucks me off to see that fucking line thrown out there because it's ignorant AF.