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Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

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Whatdoyouthinkaboutthisone · 08/07/2020 18:53

I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

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Windyjuly · 08/07/2020 20:25

Possible it's rather bleak isn't it, the whisky at 1pm, Coke etc.

I'm not against drink or drugs but it looks empty and bleak using at midday.

However, he is an incredible actor. What's eating Gilbert grape and Edward scissor hands etc.

FrippEnos · 08/07/2020 20:26

Uraflutteringcunt

so you are saying that you didn't post

Additionally if it turned out that VP had faced years of emotional abuse and appeasing an addict for the sake of their children, she may feel she cannot speak openly against him.

You are pushing a scenario that you cannot justify or have any evidence for.

strawberrypips · 08/07/2020 20:28

I doubt whether either of them will emerge very well from this. I don't know anything about AH but have always like JD. The trouble is, he's playing a risky game because people who drink and get high frequently do not remember their hideous behaviour afterwards. It does say something that he has taken it this far to court though and opened up his life to public scrutiny.

VP must be delighted to hear herself described as "the millstone" btw!

possiblepickle · 08/07/2020 20:28

heartsonacake
He is worse because he should have known better. But don’t they all think through their dicks at that age? No fool like an old fool and all that.
He is 57, she is 34. That IS half his age. Unless of course you ignore statistics. He could even be her grand pa! 🤮

Uraflutteringcunt · 08/07/2020 20:28

so you are saying that you didn't post

Please show me where I said I didn’t post that.

MrsWhites · 08/07/2020 20:29

Fortunately for JD the case is not to decide whether there are are ‘more handsome men in Hollywood’, his parenting skills or whether it is ‘creepy’ to marry a younger woman!

No-one is disputing that they clearly had a volatile relationship, he is clearly wrong in some of the things he has said or done but non of that means that he beat her as she or the sun says he did!

FrippEnos · 08/07/2020 20:29

Uraflutteringcunt

Why post it at all?

BinkyBoinky · 08/07/2020 20:29

What did Dan Wooton do?

NewarkShark · 08/07/2020 20:30

@mbosnz

Is this a judge alone trial?
Yes!
possiblepickle · 08/07/2020 20:31

@MrsWhites

Fortunately for JD the case is not to decide whether there are are ‘more handsome men in Hollywood’, his parenting skills or whether it is ‘creepy’ to marry a younger woman!

No-one is disputing that they clearly had a volatile relationship, he is clearly wrong in some of the things he has said or done but non of that means that he beat her as she or the sun says he did!

It will be great if you could avoid being so condescending without directly answering any of my points. This is not a court. It’s Mumsnet. And he is a public figure and an actor who is not Daniel Day fucking Lewis at all. Hmm
JacobReesMogadishu · 08/07/2020 20:31

I want to know if he was in the bed when she shat in it.

NewarkShark · 08/07/2020 20:32

@ArriettyJones

From a legal perspective he was ill-advised to pursue this lawsuit. For one thing, financially it’s a big gamble, secondly all kinds of gory details are likely to emerge during the course of the proceedings, such as the fact he supplied his 13 year old daughter with drugs on top of the inevitable’he said, she said’ allegations which could damage his reputation further.

I was wondering about that. I concluded that with a big enough fee, you’ll find willing legal representation for any case. I suppose it’s an intellectual challenge too for a certain kind of barrister?

I think that poster meant Ill advised from Johnny Depp’s point of view. He’s spending all this money to “clear his name” but given everything coming out, it’s not going to be great for his reputation even if he wins.

Barristers have to represent anyone who asks them to, subject to very few exceptions.

Windyjuly · 08/07/2020 20:33

Possible I'm v close to 40 and someone my age became a grandpa today.

Age has little to do with it.

He's hardly winding down to retirement on the golf course is he!

chaoticisatroll55 · 08/07/2020 20:33

She sounds unhinged and he sounds like an over the hill alcoholic. It's a sorry state of affairs.

Bunnymumy · 08/07/2020 20:35

It's 23 years gap, so he could not, infact, be her grandpa xD lol. It is a big gap tbf but like pp says, she is a grown woman in her thirties who knows her own mind. Its not like she was some young, innocent teenager.

NewarkShark · 08/07/2020 20:35

On a separate note, does anyone think she has had work done on her face judging from pics outside court?

Doesn’t affect the issues being discussed in this thread I just thought she looked really different

narrowboatgirl · 08/07/2020 20:36

They are both abusers.

Depp has a history of abuse and violence as long as your arm and has given interviews taking with relish about how he has “hillbilly rages” where he goes psycho and attacks and even BITES people, that he gets off on seeing fear in his victim’s eyes, and he’s spoken openly for years about how he’s been a serious drug user since he was a teenager. He used to trash hotel rooms when he was with Kate Moss; smashing up furniture and punching walls around your Gf is considered a form of DV even if he never laid a finger on her directly (iirc she’s never defended him). Winona Ryder said he abused her then retracted it.

There’s a story from two people who claimed to have witnessed him beating up Vanessa Paradis on a particular island, and he’s on record as saying she was good at “managing” his rages and his alcohol and drug addictions; he also faced numerous criminal charges for beating up different people during their relationship and some of those violent incidents were in front of her. (Including him being sued by a disabled university professor because he ordered his bodyguards to handcuff and drag her across the floor so violently both her arms dislocated, and they also removed her underwear exposing her naked lower body).

So at the very least Paradis was forced to witness violence and likely that’s why she made “managing his rage” part of her job. Maybe he didn’t directly physically abuse her, but no woman should have to witness violence and feel they need to “manage” a man’s violence to avoid being hit. Maybe she blames Heard for not doing the same. Not to mention he gave her some squillionaire sum of money whey they split when they weren’t even married.

He’s an awful, awful human being imo. I’d bet every penny I have that he beat Amber Heard. And no that doesn’t mean she was justified in being violent to him too. But he’s at least as bad as she is. Worse, since she’s never been accused of being violent to anyone else and he has.

SandieCheeks · 08/07/2020 20:36

They both seem horrendous.

He's a vile old drunk/junkie. He should be ashamed of himself! His poor kids having to hear all these details.

Uraflutteringcunt · 08/07/2020 20:37

I posted it because VP is not an impartial witness. And after 14 years with an addict you modify your behaviour to avoid more trouble. She may still be doing that to avoid conflict for her children and for herself. Unless you are VP you cannot say why they broke up and neither can I. But I can say that typically in relationships with addicts there is an enabler who does their best to appease. How else has a relationship lasted for 14 years without her turning a blind eye to some appalling behaviour, he did not decide one day in 2013 to suddenly start drinking a bottle of wine for breakfast everyday especially as he has had drug issues since he was a child.

I really don’t expect you to understand any of this at all. I don’t think you can read properly.

Windyjuly · 08/07/2020 20:38

What work? I can't see any difference but I've not looked that closely.

She's extremely beautiful but to me in a one look way kind of way. I find for instance vp face beguiling, interesting! Much more character.

possiblepickle · 08/07/2020 20:38

@Windyjuly

Possible I'm v close to 40 and someone my age became a grandpa today.

Age has little to do with it.

He's hardly winding down to retirement on the golf course is he!

In general, nearly all of the age difference couples are younger woman/older man. And a huge majority of them are highly imbalanced, just like here. With age comes responsibility and maturity. He is also a parent. You have to really like yourself and be quite arrogant to think you will come out ok from something like this.
possiblepickle · 08/07/2020 20:39

@Windyjuly

What work? I can't see any difference but I've not looked that closely.

She's extremely beautiful but to me in a one look way kind of way. I find for instance vp face beguiling, interesting! Much more character.

VP has a face like a goddess! Truly beatiful and elegant woman.
narrowboatgirl · 08/07/2020 20:39

AH has a massive history of domestic violence in her pre ious relationships (her the perpetrator)
JD’s exes have ALL come out in support of him, saying that he’s the gentlest soul.

Both those statements are just flat out lies.

IsadoraQuagmire · 08/07/2020 20:39

I used to love Johnny Depp until he married Amber Heard, I've always loathed her and couldn't believe he had such crap taste.
I do like him again now he's got rid of her, and I certainly wouldn't believe a word that came out of her mouth.

Windyjuly · 08/07/2020 20:39

Possible, I've dated an older man and actually sometimes when we were out and about people got quite abusive!

There was no imbalance to it at all.