Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

[Whatdoyouthinkaboutthisone]

I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

Both clearly totally bonkers. The poo thing is so gross that tips the balance for me.

GlummyMcGlummerson

Its not as if there are tapes of her saying that she hit him, tried to barge through doors once he had removed himself from arguments and belittling him.

Or that she is the one that has been arrested for abusing a partner, then accused the lesbian police officer of homophobia.

I'm not saying he is a saint but FFS.

Both as bad as each other- clearly a volatile relationship that they should have ended way before it did.

They seem ill suited at the very least. He seems erratic and I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with him but the drama queen seems large in her personality as well. There was a huge pile on him from the very beginning when she made her accusations but he didn’t seem to get an equal hearing, though.

I think they’re both appalling.

Both appalling, both abusive, but the texts (if true) that he sent, sent shivers through me

Glummy I don’t think he had a history of violence at all which is why everyone was so shocked. I believed her at first and that tape looked scary when you looked at it in the context of him being a violent abuser who chops his own fingers off. But when you look at it as if he is actually the victim of extreme physical and psychological abuse it looks more like the drunken rant of a grieving man. I think the backstory was his mother had died the day before and this is what they were arguing about as she had gone out all night partying with people she had cheated on him with. He’d been up drinking all night so when she came in in the morning she started filming him. He slams a few cupboards but he’s not actually directly aggressive towards her. Not condoning his behaviour but if it was a woman on the receiving end of abuse you wouldn’t blame her because she had a drink problem and was goaded into reaction.

It was obvious from the recorded conversations that she was constantly goading him and looking for fights. Wouldn’t let him walk away, calling him a baby when he called for help etc. It gave me the heebie jeebies listening to it.

As bad as each other. Pair of wankers.

Paul Bettany also sounds like an arsehole.

No idea as not following it however, he was married to his ex wife for years, so surely she will speak in support for him. I think character references so to speak will speak volumes. This seems to be in his favour so far.

They both sound seriously mentally unwell.

I thinks it's awful that it's all over the papers.

They are both toxic people. Together they were just horrific. The texts he sent talking about AH were bad, but they weren’t to her so I don’t know. The recordings of AH screaming at JD and mocking him and admitting she hit him were also bad. I’m inclined to believe him purely because he’s so private usually, almost reclusive and he’s putting himself through this very public court case with The Sun. He’s been very honest about the drugs etc. But that doesn’t mean he was an angel, they both sound like awful people. And AH shitting in their bed...that is just not normal.

Very toxic relationship.

She came across as awful in the tapes that came out before the court case of them arguing (apparently they regularly recorded their arguments.)

However based on what has come out in court today, I wouldn’t like to say. He doesn’t come across well either eg the texts he sent to a friend. They obviously had a very volatile relationship and a sordid lifestyle.

Reading about their relationship definitely makes me feel less sad about being single!

Don't know about JD but AH is clearly a violent abuser. She even admit it on tape.

I think he takes a lot of drugs and drinks a lot of booze, but dont think he's the wife beater she's making out. However none on here will ever know x

If anyone can be arsed, you can listen to some of their recorded phone calls on youtube, she sounds non sensical and Johnny is calm and sad, saying he loves her and then further along he realises that she’s really not very nice. I think he’s a nice guy!!! Problems with drink n drugs and a crazy relationship but totally team Johnny.

I can’t get over her shitting in their bed-who does that? Certainly no one in their right mind but also maybe someone who was an abuser and treated their bed as she did him.

I believe him. I also think it’s taken a lot to sit and admit to his drug abuse/alcoholism in great detail, that can’t have been easy but just shows how determined he is to clear his name.

Also if a woman was forced to face her abuser everyday in court when he didn’t need to be there we would all be screaming from the rooftops how wrong it is!

I wonder how many other celebrity couples live like this.

@TheLightSideOfTheMoon

Publicity stunt from start to finish.

I assume you mean the relationship on her part? Not sure the DV would be a great publicity stunt on his part?

@TheLightSideOfTheMoon

Publicity stunt from start to finish.

I assume you mean the relationship on her part? Not sure the DV would be a great publicity stunt on his part?

I think both of them were at fault - the court transcripts show that. However, I don't believe he physically abused her.

I don't think either of them are going to come out of this covered in glory. It's clear they had a toxic relationship and the truth will no doubt be somewhere in the middle of whatever it is they both claim. However, I do think that she is a sociopath and finds lying as easy as breathing.

I would imagine he wishes he'd never laid eyes on her. The whole situation doesn't appear to have done her career any harm though.

WRT Vanessa Paradis, I feel like her dynamic with him was very different and so not entirely relevant. She’s calmer than Amber. She’s older and known him longer, so probably able to manage his behaviour when he is off his face and keep him calm. She probably retreated where as Amber (proof in the tape) chases him to keep arguing. Both breakups are as a result of his addictions, but Amber probably snapped well before Vanessa did because she has children with him, and would be more invested in keeping him on the straight and narrow, probably has better coping techniques.

Either way, he’s to blame, and so is she because she has admitted hitting him too, as well as other vile behaviours. I expect Vanessa is glad to be out of it.

I thinks it's awful that it's all over the papers.

Why is it all over the papers?
In so much detail. Do they not get any anonymity in it?