Can't find the thread on missing Madeleine (hope I have spelt her name correct)

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Can't find the tread

The only positive so far is they are finally re opening Joanna’s case.
The media are just filling voids atm with speculative rubbish. There’s no way CB acted alone.MC was passed through the window imo.

I also am questioning whether he killed her, my gut instinct is he didn’t but I do think he sold her.

Looks like their belief she is dead comes from something digital.

That artists impression and the placing of the tattoo is interesting.

Arewedone where did you read they were reopening Joanas case?

I really do feel for that girls mum and family.

What about the British Police who were ordered not to investigate anything to do with the family? Look up Colin Sutton in the British police and get back to me with a realistic opinion there.

The whole thing stinks. But there we are.

Agree with the above that something feels amiss.

Plus world renowned Dr Mark Perlin, Chief Scientist at Cybergenentics, has offered to retest, for Free, the DNA found in the McCanns flat using the latest techniques developed in DNA testing over the past 10 years. He first offered over a year ago, and also recently in light of the latest suspect CB. Both Scotland Yard / Operation Grange and the McCanns have rebutted this offer. Makes you ask the question why they aren’t taking him up on this.....

I’m guessing that if the case goes to court and CB is on trial his defence can insist all DNA evidence is re-examined?

Also I didn't know that the mass booking of tables each evening by the group was visible to others. So not hard to know they are out if the apartment and only occasionally check on the kids

There’s no way CB acted alone.

I guess my distinction is that he either (a) acted for himself with or without the help of some paedo pal or (b) that he acted as the 'delivery boy' for a third party (like I believe Dutroux did).

I meant option (a) when I said I think CB acted 'on his own', Arewedone.

There’s no way CB acted alone

He at least had a tip off about the groups routine from someone in the know.

Yes but what was the intent?

Tipping off for burglary, share of pickings is bad but tipping off the apartments have unattended children for abduction purposes. Is a different level altogether.

It could be the tipper thought they were only tipping for thief not abduction.

Tipping off someone with the intent of faciliating the kidnapping of a child is dark. I don‘t want to believe this happened.

Tipping off a burglar is clearly a different ball game. But what if you think you are tipping off a burglar, and once you realize he stole a child instead, you stay silent... How sick is that?

Also, I am not quite sure, why German police make the evidence that they have regarding MM’s rate and CB‘s role such a. big mistery. Surely, CB of all people would know what he wrote and didn’t write in chats and what can and cannot be found on his buried usb sticks. So why this secrecy? And conversely: why say anything at all?

Deepwater yes I hear what you are saying.

I can only imagine that the "tipper" was frightened by the consequences for themselves.
I'd imagine they'd be sacked, did CB issue threats, were they wanted for other crimes of thieft/ burglary?

I think they might be trying to flush the "tipper" out. Hence giving out his number and enough hints that they know what CB has done.
"Your loyalties may have changed'

There were only ever two plausible theories for what happened; it was someone close to Madeleine or she was abducted.

If someone was sick and knew that the kids were alone, they might have received a hefty payment for the tip off. Some people only care about money.

KatherineJaneway

Can we stick with the discussion on new leads and suspect?
I think we can rule out the 'someone close' theory. Also that kind of thing is what has lead to other threads being closed down.

Blackbear19

I am

We are discussing the possibility of CB being tipped off and, while that is sickening, it is one of only two real possibilities for what happened making it viable someone from the Ocean club or associated with it tipped him off that the apartment would, at times, have no adults in it.

I just can't see how he could have done this on his own and got away without being spotted by anybody in that small window of time.

I just can't see how he could have done this on his own and got away without being spotted by anybody in that small window of time.

"There’s no way CB acted alone"

"He at least had a tip off about the groups routine from someone in the know."

Is it really ok to just make stuff up? You don't even have any evidence he has any connection to the case ( Being an unpleasant person and being in the same country isn't enough) and now you've invented a new suspect. What next? get hold of the staff list and pick one who 'sounds like the type to have tipped him off"

Tonight German TV (ZDF, which is the Germans version of the BBC) will again broadcast a 'Aktenzeichen XY' episode that features the MM case. (They already did so last week).

It is a type of format, where true crimes are presented and the public is asked for tips and informations on the case with phone lines and all... (It has been around since the 70's, I think).

One focus will apparently be the phone number of the prepaid phone that CB called directly before MM disappeared. (I'm adding the link to the article that announces the episode and its content).

www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/focus-online-live-ticker-habe-eindruck-dass-was-wichtiges-passiert-fall-maddie-erneut-bei-aktenzeichen-xy_id_12160026.html

I'll say it again, this reminds me of a concerted airwaves saturating (and ultimately successful) campaign to smoke out the Austrian right wing letter bomber. But the strategy makes no sense to me in this context.

A huge number of things have made absolutely no sense in this sad case.

Is it really ok to just make stuff up? You don't even have any evidence he has any connection to the case...

Idk LastTrain. German prosecuters repeat ad nauseam that they are certain that CB did it. What is your standard for qualifying some statement as not 'making stuff up'?

This is ridiculous.

It really boils down to 'who knows this phone number or knows something about its user.' Asking to check old phones for the number.

'Any new leads?' 'Yeah, some tips have us lead further.'
'Can you now prove the suspect did it?' ' No comment.... But it is very important to identify the phone number...'

wtf?