Boris looks ill

[MrBennsshop]

At today's briefing, definitely not himself.

Johnson should be ashamed of not taking the enormous issues facing parents and the education sector seriously at PMQs. His attempted Jedi mind trick to suggest that the utter shambles around school re-opening is in fact the oppositions fault and not the responsibility of the Government is mind boggling. Really??

There are the out and out racists who wont vote for Sunak because he's Asian, but he's also much more acceptable than Javid. As well as being posher, he's also Hindu rather than Muslim and let's not pretend that wouldn't make a difference. Really? What an unpleasant post.

@Mumratheevergiving

Johnson should be ashamed of not taking the enormous issues facing parents and the education sector seriously at PMQs. His attempted Jedi mind trick to suggest that the utter shambles around school re-opening is in fact the oppositions fault and not the responsibility of the Government is mind boggling. Really??

Spin is all they're good at. Been that way since Cameron blamed the global crash on Labour and vote for me not 'Chaos with Ed Miliband;. 'We might be terrible but Labour are worse' is the Tory mantra.

@derxa

There are the out and out racists who wont vote for Sunak because he's Asian, but he's also much more acceptable than Javid. As well as being posher, he's also Hindu rather than Muslim and let's not pretend that wouldn't make a difference. Really? What an unpleasant post.

Yes, acknowledging that prejudice exists is what's unpleasant here. Or are we going to pretend Islamophobia isn't a problem in the UK?

derxa is correct, that’s how many people think

Islamophobia is certainly a problem in the tory party as acknowledged by all the leadership candidates in a TV Q&A session, they all promised an investigation into it before xmas.... unfortunately no one asked them which xmas lol!

Funnily enough the media have never been quite so keen in asking the Conservatives about this as they were the Labour party and their issues with anti semitism.

derxa is correct, that’s how many people think

Yes, it's well known that's how many people think and it's ridiculous to accuse someone of being 'unpleasant' for acknowledging that.

@derxa

There are the out and out racists who wont vote for Sunak because he's Asian, but he's also much more acceptable than Javid. As well as being posher, he's also Hindu rather than Muslim and let's not pretend that wouldn't make a difference. Really? What an unpleasant post.

Surely the poster was just pointing out a sad reality rather them being unpleasant?

Did you mean I'm correct HopeClearwater? If so, I agree!

I haven't read the full thread, so I don't know if it's been mentioned upthread, but "johnson" is slang for "penis".

www.answerbag.com/q_view/508763

After a selection contest held by the Bromsgrove Conservative Association on 6 February 2010, in which he received over 70% of the votes cast by its members, Javid was announced as the official Conservative & Unionist Party Parliamentary Candidate for the 2010 general election
Sunak was selected as the Conservative candidate for Richmond (Yorks) in October 2014. The seat had previously been held by William Hague, a former leader of the party, Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State, who chose to stand down at the following general election.
People will select and vote for people they think are competent.

@derxa

After a selection contest held by the Bromsgrove Conservative Association on 6 February 2010, in which he received over 70% of the votes cast by its members, Javid was announced as the official Conservative & Unionist Party Parliamentary Candidate for the 2010 general election Sunak was selected as the Conservative candidate for Richmond (Yorks) in October 2014. The seat had previously been held by William Hague, a former leader of the party, Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State, who chose to stand down at the following general election. People will select and vote for people they think are competent.

Are you suggesting one constituency candidate selection process refutes the suggestion that there's Islamophobia in this country?

Actually not funny but have laughed at "Boris has been dealt a bad hand"

Yeah - cos the rat of us are just spectators if coronavirus. We haven't had to manage the hand seat in way way whatsoever

Sorry to break it to you Derxa but yes unfortunately racism exists. Didn’t you catch anything in the news lately about BLM?

Keir Starmer's children are at school and have been all the time I read somewhere.
The unions are not totally to blame here : the government need to get a grip on the school situation.

Are you suggesting one constituency candidate selection process refutes the suggestion that there's Islamophobia in this country? Nope
Sorry to break it to you Derxa but yes unfortunately racism exists. Didn’t you catch anything in the news lately about BLM? Yes racism exists throughout society. Why would I think otherwise.
Devices such as 'Sorry to break it to you' and 'Do you realise..' just put people's backs up. Why do you want to do that?

I wonder, if the Government had had the wit and the courtesy to ensure that schools were told they were closing prior to them finding out via the same media notifications we all got, could that have helped?

If the Government had consulted with education providers and managers before declaring that schools would be re-opening, when they couldn't physically do so, based on the Government's own guidelines and 'science' could that have made a difference.

They haven't done a lot to develop or foster a relationship of trust, goodwill, or mutual good faith with education providers, have they?

When they (yet again) fuck everything up, their stock response seems to be 'yes, but teachers, schools and unions - quick, hate on them!'

Devices such as 'Sorry to break it to you' and 'Do you realise..' just put people's backs up. Why do you want to do that?

Why do you want to falsely accuse people of being 'unpleasant'? Just to goad?

Why do you want to falsely accuse people of being 'unpleasant'? Just to goad? Oh give up!

Perhaps you might clarify what point you were attempting to make then derxa. Meanwhile, YouGov did some polling on Tory members and Islam last year, and a rather unedifying number of them weren't keen on the idea of a Muslim PM.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/almost-half-of-conservative-members-would-reject-muslim-prime-minister-poll-finds

But obviously, people never take this sort of thing into account and it's jolly unpleasant to suggest that could possibly happen.

No point turning on the defensive grinny face. You accused a pp highlighting racism of being unpleasant. When yr challenged you accuse pp of deliberately trying to get at you. What bullshit.

Derxa - Devices such as 'Sorry to break it to you' and 'Do you realise..' just put people's backs up. Why do you want to do that?

Maybe suggesting that political selections are completely meritocratic put people’s backs up too?

You accused a pp highlighting racism of being unpleasant. Don't twist my words. I'm not disputing that there is Islamophobia amongst Tory party members. There was something odd about the post which I can't put my finger on. I'll come back to you.

@derxa

You accused a pp highlighting racism of being unpleasant. Don't twist my words. I'm not disputing that there is Islamophobia amongst Tory party members. There was something odd about the post which I can't put my finger on. I'll come back to you.

When you've come up with it, do get back to us.

@Princess I think so!