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Boris looks ill

413 replies

MrBennsshop · 16/06/2020 17:21

At today's briefing, definitely not himself.

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Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 15:52

I imagine Mrs Sunak is mentally measuring No 10 up right now.
Doubt it. She's far too rich to want to live somewhere so small

The most prestigious address in the country? Don’t be ridiculous!

tinytemper66 · 17/06/2020 15:53

His car was involved in a minor accident leaving Parliament. No injuries reported but I bet he will be missing in action again!

FliesandPies · 17/06/2020 15:55

Tory Party leadership Challenge allowed from 23rd July

But surely they don't expect the public to put up with another such farce, only a year after the last one? It would do even more damage to the party. The only way to get rid of him is to get rid of Cummings, perhaps they've got a plan for that?

jasjas1973 · 17/06/2020 16:01

The next tory party leader will ultimately be chosen by the mainly white and old (ish) membership, i doubt Sunak will get a look in.

Javid got 23 out of 313 last time round.

Cailleach1 · 17/06/2020 16:04

I wonder if Gove is lining up to be PM next. Cummings was always his man. Some slippery serpentine speeches then!
Johnson is looking worse than even they could have predicted. I wonder if he will last until the Transition period is over. It seems as if anything can happen.

Mumratheevergiving · 17/06/2020 16:07

Please please please not Gove. As 2020 is going down as one of the worst years in recent history that really would top it off.

FliesandPies · 17/06/2020 16:08

Sunak is a lot more popular than Javid - he's posh, good-looking and does as he's told - I think he would appeal even to the membership. Javid's problem wasn't just being non-white but being non-white and working class.

This made me larf
twitter.com/tompeck/status/1273268972801097731

Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 16:08

*The next tory party leader will ultimately be chosen by the mainly white and old (ish) membership, i doubt Sunak will get a look in.

Javid got 23 out of 313 last time round*

They’ll vote for whoever’s most electable. Sunak’s the golden boy right now, there will be a lot of Tory blue rinses smitten by his boyish charms pressurising their husbands to vote him in. Javid bears no comparison, even if the world was the same place as a year ago.

FliesandPies · 17/06/2020 16:12

Gove is unelectable, even the Tories know that.

jasjas1973 · 17/06/2020 16:16

Ken Clark summed up Sunak, popular (among MPs) because he is handing out the money, will be far less so when he has to make the savings and tax rises to pay for it all.

ListeningQuietly · 17/06/2020 16:17

Sunak's mum was a pharmacist. His dad was a GP.
but he's still not right for the party faithful.

Cummings has TONS of dirt on Johnson and Gove.

Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 16:23

@jasjas1973

Ken Clark summed up Sunak, popular (among MPs) because he is handing out the money, will be far less so when he has to make the savings and tax rises to pay for it all.
That’s only partly right. Sunak’s confident, intelligent, personable, articulate and good looking, with excellent communication skills. The camera loves him and he comes across as trustworthy and sincere. I so wish he wasn’t a Tory because I like him enough to be very worried about myself!
ListeningQuietly · 17/06/2020 16:27

jasjas
Apparently Sunak is really popular with every civil servant he's worked with

  • he listens
  • he learns
  • he takes advice
  • and he's so incredibly rich by marriage that no financial bribe or threat can influence him
annabel85 · 17/06/2020 16:29

@jasjas1973

Ken Clark summed up Sunak, popular (among MPs) because he is handing out the money, will be far less so when he has to make the savings and tax rises to pay for it all.
There was a piece in the FT today that the triple lock pensions might come under threat next year, that'd be suicide for a Tory chancellor given that the membership are pretty much exclusively pensioners. Sunak is the golden boy at the moment but as you say all this money has to be paid back in a shrinking economy.

2020 is the year you don't want to be Health Sec
2021 will be the year you don't want to be Chancellor

It's doubtful whether Boris starts or survives 2021 as PM (or whether he even wants to) but the membership are unpredictable and right wing. The Tories panicked and made sure May won in 2016 because they thought the membership would have appointed Leadsom (the right wing equivalent of the Labour membership appointing Corbyn).

A more left field choice for next leader is Hunt. You can see him angling towards it.

happinessischocolate · 17/06/2020 16:34

Will anyone of them want to take over as PM right now? Won't it be like 2016 when no one wanted the job so May got it.

Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 16:37

There was a piece in the FT today that the triple lock pensions might come under threat next year, that'd be suicide for a Tory chancellor given that the membership are pretty much exclusively pensioners

That’s why they won’t do it.

NoWordForFluffy · 17/06/2020 16:40

I so wish he wasn’t a Tory because I like him enough to be very worried about myself!

My mum IS a Tory and she likes him. But she's also gutted that Keir Starmer is Labour as she also thinks he's great!

midsomermurderess · 17/06/2020 16:51

How bad is the dirt Cummings has on Gove given that Gove emerged pretty unscathed from the cocaine 'scandal'? The bar for career-fatal indiscretions is now ludicrously high.

midsomermurderess · 17/06/2020 16:52

Or should that be low?

jasjas1973 · 17/06/2020 16:52

CV is causing such a financial hit, many tory sacred cows will have to be slaughtered, including triple lock.

The reality is unemployment may well increase as furlough is withdrawn, UC might have to increase quite a bit too.

category12 · 17/06/2020 16:54

£900K repainting a plane red white and blue. Confused

Their justification for that is just utter shit.

Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 17:10

@jasjas1973, they’re going to be between a rock and a hard place. If they slaughter their sacred cows economically, they can forget being re-elected. Or at least they should but, given the determination of their fan base here, there seems to be nothing they can do that will deter their most devoted supporters.

annabel85 · 17/06/2020 17:10

@Alsohuman

There was a piece in the FT today that the triple lock pensions might come under threat next year, that'd be suicide for a Tory chancellor given that the membership are pretty much exclusively pensioners

That’s why they won’t do it.

Probably, but there will come a point, probably over these next 4 years and/or beyond, where committing to a triple-lock pension takes up too high a percentage of public spending. There's going to be millions suddenly unemployed.
Alsohuman · 17/06/2020 18:00

Loving this. It’s from the comments on Marina Warner’s latest piece in The Guardian.

This government is led by its appendages, not by its insight, intellect or imagination. Throbbing with technophilia and proudly erect, as erect as a Boz with a new bird, Dom dominates, a second-class brain in a third-class government

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 17/06/2020 18:03

There are the out and out racists who wont vote for Sunak because he's Asian, but he's also much more acceptable than Javid. As well as being posher, he's also Hindu rather than Muslim and let's not pretend that wouldn't make a difference. If the MPs think he's the best option, they may sew the thing up again.