Can we have a 'how do you pronounce that' thread please?

[Wonkybanana]

I'll start with one that drives me crackers, Louboutin.

Is it -
LOO-boo-tan

Loo-BOO-tan
or
Loo-Boo-TAN

Please put me out of my misery!
(As you might have guessed, they're not in my price range however it's pronounced.)

I’m American and have never heard “lartay” for latte. Adding an “r” sound in seems to be a UK thing.

I think the Las Vegas/Los Vegas is an accent thing as well? It’s a long “A” sound like in “aha” rather than a short “a” as in hat. To me “Los” is a totally different sound, like “low.”

Heh geh mny

Heh geh mny

@kittyhello Pretty much everyone pronounces Kenya as Ken-yuh. I haven't heard Keen-yah apart from very posh people in very old films.

BIL3 has jally-pee-nee-ohs and chur-izzo in his tortillas (rhymes with gorilla). I sometimes have to be restrained.

I'm American; I say Las Vegas, not "Los" and so does everyone I know. I live in an area with lots of Spanish speakers who do tend to know the difference.

@krong I'd say chip-oat-lay

Thanks 1066vegan

I agree that if Las Vegas sounds like "Los" Vegas, it's just a difference in accents.

It's similar to the disagreement that dd and I used to have when she was younger and liked Frozen. If I called Elsa's sister "Anna", dd corrected me and said that her name was "Ah-nu". I said that it was spelled Anna so I was just saying that name in my usual English accent. She insisted that I was saying the wrong name rather than saying the same name with the way it's usually said in English. She used to have a friend called Anna and still couldn't see that it was the same name.

I’m American and have never heard “lartay” for latte. Adding an “r” sound in seems to be a UK thing.

Nobody's actually adding an 'r' sound in the UK though. The majority of UK English speakers pronounce 'lar' exctly the same as 'lah' (i.e. without pronouncing an actual 'r' sound on the end). So 'lartyay' is just another way of phonetically rendering the same sound as lahtay.
It's the difference between a rhotic and a non-rhotic English accent. It comes up a lot on MN pronunciation threads and always causes arguments and confusion!

Las Vegas and Frozen have reminded me of the American thing of making an ‘a’ into a long sound for no reason (also ‘paaaaahsta’). Why?!
It’s particularly baffling in ‘pasta’ and similar Italian words because that ‘a’ sound is (or should be) very open.

Isn't the Italian "a" in pasta somewhere between the short British "a" and the American broad "a"? So British people went in one direction with it and Americans in another.

It comes up a lot on MN pronunciation threads and always causes arguments and confusion!

Yes, MN is a very non-rhotic-centric place.

The Italian a is always short and the sound often described as being like the first 'a' in 'papa'.

Love this thread.

One that shocked me was Belvoir Castle - pronounced Beaver Castle.

Historically a lot of French words were purposely mispronounced or avoided (eg napkin v serviette) because of historical tension with the French.

Literally just seen it on tv: misled

I know "miss-led" but I swear I used to use/know/head "myzled" - anyone else?

Oooh I really want to know how locals say Theydon Bois please. I don’t know whether to say it like it was France or not.

Loccitane is french so it is pronounced as:
LO- si- tan. There’s no k or x sound in it.

museumum it is simply Theydon Boyz, as in boys. Looks French but you pronounce it the English way.

@Potatobug - you are entirely wrong. It's Loxi-tan. As has been discussed at length on this thread and incidentally is his you pronounce the Orient - l'Occident - in French. Double C is an x sound.

Loccitane is french so it is pronounced as:
LO- si- tan. There’s no k or x sound in it.

Surely the first 'c' makes a k sound and the second one makes a s sound because it comes before an i. Put them together and you get the x/ks sound. Just googled it and L'Occitane themselves say thst it's pronounced 'lox ee tahn' on their website!

Isn't the Italian "a" in pasta somewhere between the short British "a" and the American broad "a"? So British people went in one direction with it and Americans in another.

Yes, this.

'L'Occitane'- 'accident' 'acceptable"- same thing with the double c followed by an e or i making an 'x' sound.

LikeTheBattle It is a nice wee place but the best bit is the view of Arran as you heading back to Ayr

LikeTheBattle Does your Mum pronounce the letter J as Jay or Jai rhyming with high when she recites the alphabet ?

Funny, I am half French and we pronounce it Lo-si-tan in France but keep on arguing with me, you might win at the end.