Caroline Flack found dead

[LittleScottish]

Poor, poor woman...

There is absolutely no similarity between Caroline flacks criminal case and Jeffrey Epstein’s criminal case @Hearhoovesthinkzebras which is why there is no point in using their suicides as a comparison.

Using a serial rapist and peadophile to make a comparison is ridiculous.
He hadn't been charged though so why wasn't he innocent until.proven guilty? Even if guilty, why not the sympathy that he felt driven to suicide?

I'm not defending him, far from it but I really don't get why CF alleged crimes should be airbrushed out just because she chose the ultimate way to avoid trial.

Never heard of Epstein and what he was accused of is far worse than Caroline.

We didn't get to hear Caroline's side. Have some respect

But we do know what he said in the 999 call and to the Police when they arrived.

I am concerned about her ex BFs—including the other one who excused her of abuse—and Harry Styles, who I think got pulled into something over his head as a teenager, being new to fame, when he dated Caroline. I don’t care how mature he may have been for his age—at 17–I’ll just say if a celebrity crush showed interest in him, he probably didn’t know how to handle that, and may have felt responsible for the awful press CF received afterwards, which continued for the rest of her life. I feel sorry for anyone who ever knew her, for different reasons.

NoSharon

We didn't get to hear Caroline's side. Have some respect.

So even with what we know due to the court hearing, he must have done something to provoke her?

And you are taking others to task?

Also, Epstein, as far as I know, was accused of serious crimes and by multiple victims.
Caroline Flack was accused on one crime, by one victim.

Because she's dead.

So is Jeffrey Epstein. Are you sad for him too? Was it awful how the press conducted trial by media before he stood trial in court?

Why do women hate successful women?

I don't. I hate abusers

How on earth anyone can draw any kind of comparison between the offences of Epstein and that of Caroline Flack is beyond me.

She's dead now ffs! Why do you want to still find her guilty? What will it achieve for you personally?

She got the death sentence. Happy now?

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras I’ve said repeatedly that Caroline’s crimes should not be airbrushed, that doesn’t mean that I can’t be sad that she felt her only option was to end her life.

Jeffrey Epstein was charged with much more serious crimes with multiple accusers. To compare the two crimes/suicides is ridiculous. There doesn’t even need to be comparisons. Life is not black and white, you can different feelings in different situations.

What I find most disconcerting is blaming the CPS. They were doing their job. I for one want to ensure they keep doing their job.

nosharon no, she didnt. She chose that way out. I feel incredibly sorry for her that she felt that way.

We didn't get to hear Caroline's side

And whose fault is that? She could have gone to trial and fought to clear her name. She chose not to.

As for the "only hearing her side" we've just had the big #metoo movement and the #webelieveyou stance, meaning that victims should be believed, not doubted.

If my dd murdered someone, I genuinely would help her bury the body. (unless she was in the business of murdering people repeatedly).

Christ I've made some mistakes in my life. I'm still hanging in here though.

Why do you want to still find her guilty? What will it achieve for you personally

Raise awareness that DV can and does happen to men and that the police and the court will take it seriously.

Wow @Hearhoovesthinkzebras ‘she chose not to’. As if taking your own life is such a simple decision.

What I find most disconcerting is blaming the CPS. They were doing their job. I for one want to ensure they keep doing their job.

Yy, and especially in abuse cases where the victim might resist prosecution. People need to understand that.

Raise awareness that DV can and does happen to men and that the police and the court will take it seriously.

I'm glad you feel her death has accomplished something.

I dont think it has accomplished anything but you asked what itd achieve and i told you.

If my dd murdered someone, I genuinely would help her bury the body

That's all kinds of fucked up. Engaging further with you is futile

She's dead now ffs! Why do you want to still find her guilty? What will it achieve for you personally?She's dead now ffs! Why do you want to still find her guilty? What will it achieve for you personally?

Doesn't her alleged victim deserve justice? I should imagine her death, under these circumstances, makes his life much much harder now. I'll reserve my sympathies for him.

How on earth anyone can draw any kind of comparison between the offences of Epstein and that of Caroline Flack is beyond me.

I'm not drawing similarities between their alleged crimes, at all. I'm not even drawing similarities between the reactions to their deaths (because I haven't seen any). I'm highlighting the differences in the reactions to their deaths and alleged guilt or innocence. It seems CF should now be exonerated of any accusations and all sympathy shown to her because she is dead. In other instances, even when guilt hasn't be proved, people don't try to forget the accusations.

Can you give me some examples of all the people exonerating her @Hearhoovesthinkzebras as all I’ve seen is people expressing sympathy for a lost life.

Doesn't her alleged victim deserve justice?

He didn't want to proceed with his complaint.