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Group hug thread for those devastated by election results

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KizzyWayfarer · 13/12/2019 00:02

Just a quiet place to sit. If you want to gloat or opinionate about Corbyn please go over to AIBU.

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HeIenaDove · 15/12/2019 23:54

the hospital confirmed it was true Are the hospital lying as well?

Get ready for more gaslighting folks. Every time there is a picture of a homeless person they will say its faked.

Fouroutoffour · 16/12/2019 02:56

FIL repeatedly referred to the loony left and Corbyn's magic money tree today. Apparently the economy is booming and there will be no more mass unemployment. Thought you'd want to knowHmm oh, and apparently the reduction in per pupil funding is just a minor inconvenience, not even worthy of acknowledging. Fuck this shit!

SJaneS48 · 16/12/2019 07:27

@Tippexy as above, the hospital apologised as the story is completely TRUE. Just another example of how much hillocks was made up and circulated on social media.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/10/woman-says-account-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 16:32

www.insidehousing.co.uk/home/home/gavin-barwell-lands-board-appointment-at-major-housing-association-64545?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Gavin Barwell lands board appointment at major housing association

NEWS
16/12/19
BY RHIANNON CURRY

Former housing minister Gavin Barwell has been appointed to the board of Clarion Housing, the UK’s largest housing association.

Mr Barwell, who was also chief of staff to Theresa May when she was prime minister after losing his seat in the 2017 election, will join the landlord with immediate effect.

He said: “I have long been a champion of the role played by housing associations in tackling the housing crisis, having been fortunate enough to witness first hand the vital contribution they make, during my time as housing minister.

“I look forward to continuing to contribute to the sector by joining an organisation committed to building homes and communities for the long term.”

Mr Barwell held the housing brief at the time of the Grenfell Tower tragedy, and was criticised after Inside Housing revealed that MPs had sent him seven letters asking him to review fire safety rules which were not acted upon during that time

He said last month that he expected to be called to give evidence before the public inquiry into the fire

Alongside Mr Barwell, Clarion has also appointed Tom Smyth, a vice-chair in financing advisory and an advisory partner at Rothschild & Co, to the board.

During his 23 years at Rothschild & Co, Mr Smyth has advised the boards of the biggest listed and private equity-owned companies on their funding, risk management and treasury strategies.

He will replace Tania Brisby as chair of Clarion’s treasury committee when she stands down in February.

David Avery, chair of the Clarion Housing Group board, said: “I am delighted that Gavin and Tom are joining the board.

"They join a strong team of non-executive directors with the skills and talent to help to run the largest social landlord in England. These two appointments now complete the refresh of our board due to time-served retirements

Piggywaspushed · 16/12/2019 17:17

If there is one thing this election has shown me four, it's that many many people no longer think education policy even worthy of discussion. (on all sides, actually). they honestly think teachers whine and that no money is really required : only snowflakes need money to educate kids.

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 18:17

This is on tommorrow night

John Pilger
@johnpilger
Before the election, publicity for the ITV broadcast of my film, The Dirty War on the NHS, was subject to an embargo at the very time that the film's theme, the sell-off of the NHS, was at the forefront of British politics. The ITV broadcast is now on Tuesday 17 Dec, at 10.45pm.

Asthenia · 16/12/2019 19:47

Glad to see this thread. I still feel heartbroken. Every time I think of Thursday night I feel like I’ve been punched in the stomach. Genuinely scared of what’s to come, but going to try and pull myself together and organise. Volunteering, donating to food/hygiene banks - I need to do something. Love and solidarity to all those who feel just as gutted x

ParanoidGynodroid · 16/12/2019 20:05

I’m an alien.👽 Well I feel like an alien. Because I just can’t understand.
It always seemed to obvious to me: you vote for a party that has the people’s best interests at heart; and that helps those in need. I didn’t believe I had a friend or family member nor the acquaintance of anyone who thought differently, and yet there was this result. Most people in the UK are not rich, yet there was this result. Most seem fairly reasonable, yet here we are. It’s like there’s an invisible majority who suddenly rise up and appear to vote in elections then I, and the people in the world I live in are left scratching our heads.
I just can’t understand it or explain it.

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 20:05

Thread on the feminist board has mentioned this thread and how awful some posters are for the comments about food banks. Of course they have only posted half the story and not bothered to post why when some posters on this thread have said its because they are thinking about health insurance due to fears for the NHS.

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 20:07

@SinisterBumFacedCat apologies if you are already on this thread Im tagging you in in case you arent.

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 20:08

@Asthenia i usually put sanpro in too.

PhilomenaChristmasPie · 16/12/2019 20:08

I was spreading #VoteTactically, but I don't think anyone noticed. Crown Sad

Direduldrums · 16/12/2019 20:23

So glad to see this thread, genuinely devastated over the result. And the media bashing of the left, being made to look like a bunch of loonies for daring to actually care about society in general and wanting to improve things for ordinary people.
Feel like the next 5 years are doing to be genuinely depressing, and sad for my children, that this is the country they have to grow up in Sad

MIdgebabe · 16/12/2019 21:12

Paranoid. I suspect you would be hard pushed to find anyone who didn't vote for the party they felt would do best by them and the country at large. To suggest that people don't care is wrong, insulting and generally unhelpful because it means you are not trying to actually understand

The difference is not that left or right wingers are not interested in homeless people dying, but in who you trust ,whose approach you think will be most effective, to solve the problem

everythingisginandroses · 16/12/2019 21:15

Well, they are fucking stupid, then.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2019 22:27

Peston just said on ITN news that Johnson is amending the Brexit bill to give a firm withdrawal date and there will definitely be no extension. Therefore No Deal is now more likely.

If that's true we are fucked.

HeIenaDove · 16/12/2019 23:28

Then we are toast.

jewel1968 · 16/12/2019 23:33

Do you think leave voters are bothered about a no deal exit?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2019 23:39

Jewel

I just had a quick look at Brexit Arms and got the impression they don't care or they think it's fab.

Are they all rich so will be cushioned? Do they believe it will not happen? Are they so obsessed that they simply don't care?

HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 00:30

Found this.

www.nytimes.com/2013/07/27/opinion/the-charitable-industrial-complex.html

I HAD spent much of my life writing music for commercials, film and television and knew little about the world of philanthropy as practiced by the very wealthy until what I call the big bang happened in 2006. That year, my father, Warren Buffett, made good on his commitment to give nearly all of his accumulated wealth back to society. In addition to making several large donations, he added generously to the three foundations that my parents had created years earlier, one for each of their children to run.

Early on in our philanthropic journey, my wife and I became aware of something I started to call Philanthropic Colonialism. I noticed that a donor had the urge to “save the day” in some fashion. People (including me) who had very little knowledge of a particular place would think that they could solve a local problem. Whether it involved farming methods, education practices, job training or business development, over and over I would hear people discuss transplanting what worked in one setting directly into another with little regard for culture, geography or societal norms

Often the results of our decisions had unintended consequences; distributing condoms to stop the spread of AIDS in a brothel area ended up creating a higher price for unprotected sex.

But now I think something even more damaging is going on.

Because of who my father is, I’ve been able to occupy some seats I never expected to sit in. Inside any important philanthropy meeting, you witness heads of state meeting with investment managers and corporate leaders. All are searching for answers with their right hand to problems that others in the room have created with their left. There are plenty of statistics that tell us that inequality is continually rising. At the same time, according to the Urban Institute, the nonprofit sector has been steadily growing. Between 2001 and 2011, the number of nonprofits increased 25 percent. Their growth rate now exceeds that of both the business and government sectors. It’s a massive business, with approximately $316 billion given away in 2012 in the United States alone and more than 9.4 million employed
Philanthropy has become the “it” vehicle to level the playing field and has generated a growing number of gatherings, workshops and affinity groups.

As more lives and communities are destroyed by the system that creates vast amounts of wealth for the few, the more heroic it sounds to “give back.” It’s what I would call “conscience laundering” — feeling better about accumulating more than any one person could possibly need to live on by sprinkling a little around as an act of charity

But this just keeps the existing structure of inequality in place
. The rich sleep better at night, while others get just enough to keep the pot from boiling over. Nearly every time someone feels better by doing good, on the other side of the world (or street), someone else is further locked into a system that will not allow the true flourishing of his or her nature or the opportunity to live a joyful and fulfilled life
And with more business-minded folks getting into the act, business principles are trumpeted as an important element to add to the philanthropic sector. I now hear people ask, “what’s the R.O.I.?” when it comes to alleviating human suffering, as if return on investment were the only measure of success. Microlending and financial literacy (now I’m going to upset people who are wonderful folks and a few dear friends) — what is this really about? People will certainly learn how to integrate into our system of debt and repayment with interest. People will rise above making $2 a day to enter our world of goods and services so they can buy more. But doesn’t all this just feed the beast?

GruffaIoChrimbo · 17/12/2019 00:31

I don't know.
I looked in there and just thought no, I cannot celebrate with them over something I don't want nor understand.
I am not being arsey, I asked for help on there once with a homework about european culture (!) I know, but there are knowledgeable posters too on both sides, and one poster was lovely enough to send me in the right direction to a report, whether she was against its content or not.
But at the moment I just don't get why they are celebrating, I feel like I am missing a piece of the jigsaw as I cannot see why anyone wants others to be fucked over.

jewel1968 · 17/12/2019 00:51

No I suspected no deal would not be an issue for leave voters. I also suspect it is the preferred option for many.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2019 01:04

So are they all rich? Or too brainwashed to realise how bad No Deal will be?