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Group hug thread for those devastated by election results

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KizzyWayfarer · 13/12/2019 00:02

Just a quiet place to sit. If you want to gloat or opinionate about Corbyn please go over to AIBU.

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HeIenaDove · 14/12/2019 16:34

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/14/grenfell-tory-mp-kensington-tower-tragedy

After Grenfell, a Tory MP for Kensington is a bitter pill
Seraphima Kennedy

It is a bitter pill for the community in Kensington North to swallow. This morning, almost 30 months since the fatal fire at that killed 54 adults and 18 children, the general election returned a Conservative MP, Felicity Buchan, by just 150 votes. Buchan beat the incumbent, Emma Dent-Coad (who was herself elected with only a slim margin of 20 votes back in 2017, just days before the Grenfell Tower fire).

The residents of Kensington, whose council is still under investigation for corporate manslaughter, now have an MP from the party that rejected the recommendations that could have prevented Grenfell. That same party has also failed to get to grips with the scale of the cladding scandal since the fire. If anything, progress is going backwards: thousands remain in unsafe homes, and new figures released today show an increase in the number of tower blocks with Grenfell-style cladding.

Sam Gyimah was parachuted in but ran a tone-deaf campaign, delivering generic leaflets to still traumatised people
It is hard to see how such a candidate could be returned in a borough where 72 people died so recently, after their concerns about the building were repeatedly ignored. Blame for today’s result was levelled at an aggressive campaign by the Liberal Democrats, fielding newly converted Sam Gyimah, who had little to do with either Grenfell or Kensington before the election was called. Gyimah was parachuted in but ran a tone-deaf campaign, delivering generic leaflets to homes in north Kensington still traumatised by the fire and its aftermath

His campaign literature did not reference Grenfell or the long-term recovery plan, leading to strong criticism from residents. Instead, the campaign stuck to issues the Lib Dems thought would appeal to remain voters: Brexit, schools, the NHS. This was not so much an oversight as a catastrophic slap in the face for a community still working to rebuild. Gyimah himself repeated unfounded accusations about Dent-Coad’s role in the refurbishment at Grenfell, leading to an official complaint, and failed to understand the lived experience of the constituents he was trying to win over.

A swing of 9% to the Lib Dems in this strongly remain borough gave Gyimah more than 9,000 votes, splitting the vote. There were cries of “shame” as the results were announced early this morning – a far cry from the jubilant scenes that greeted Dent-Coad’s election in early June 2017, two weeks before the fire. With a Conservative MP now elected, there is significant concern about whether promised change in the borough will be delivered. This is a grave disservice to a community who has worked day and night to rebuild.

Outside of the north of Kensington, Buchan’s election is a devastating blow for families like mine, who rely on local services and have never felt represented in this borough. Overcrowding, lack of truly affordable housing, poor repairs, and cuts to schools, mental health facilities and other services have made many residents feel as though the change promised after Grenfell has not come.

In the summer of 2019, the government’s own Grenfell Independent Taskforce delivered its fourth report into the extent of changes happening at the council. It stated: “There is a strategic failure to present a coherent narrative on recovery and the progress and outcomes that have or will be delivered. This means that it is difficult for us, never mind the bereaved, survivors and wider community, to see whether the council is really delivering or not.” It also commented that some behaviours in public meetings from elected members were “unedifying”. This is the council, this is the culture.

If Buchan wants to last in Kensington, she will need to quickly familiarise herself with the commitments already given by council leaders, study the work set out in the Independent Taskforce reports, and deliver on promised change. The government itself has immediate work to do: it needs to get a grip on the remediation programme, make homes safe, and deliver on the recommendations in the Grenfell Inquiry Phase 1 report. Otherwise, the odds seem stacked against a community that has poured so much energy into the rebuild effort.

The residents of north Kensington need justice for their community. The bereaved and survivors continue to campaign for better services. They were ignored before the fire, and no matter what party their MP belongs to, their voices must be heard now. They have been promised change: that change must come.

• Seraphima Kennedy is a writer and academic researcher"

Antigonads · 14/12/2019 16:36

I wondered how long it would be before the percentages started being wheeled out....

We had a referendum. Leave had a majority.

We have had an election. The Conservative Party won a majority of seats under the voting system that is always used.

If we had proportional representation people would, quite possibly, have voted differently.

Isn't there a phase in grief of acceptance and moving on? Can you try and find that point?

TheBlueStocking · 14/12/2019 16:42

@Antigonads

Just jog on, will you? We don't want to be silenced, thanks. We want to talk about how we feel and how this affects us.

Moonmelodies · 14/12/2019 16:42

Some say many voters didn't know what they were voting for, so will there be a march to demand a re-vote? A People's Election, perhaps?

HeIenaDove · 14/12/2019 16:51

I find it hypocritical that there are threads where Tory voters are saying how nasty left wingers are when there has been a fair number of them come on this thread to gloat.

HeIenaDove · 14/12/2019 16:55

Suzy 🌹
@Lovehasnowords1
One saddest comments ill never forget from last-night was of a a local who voted Tory
Has a disabled child
when shown Tory manifesto on Autism disabled
She went quiet
She never bothered to read Tory manifesto before hand blinded by brexit
She went quiet not heard of her since

twitter.com/Lovehasnowords1/status/1205425679694782465?s=20
THREAD

MIdgebabe · 14/12/2019 17:10

So true Helena. On all the threads

TheBlueStocking · 14/12/2019 17:16

It's absolutely callous gloating and goading as well.

Awful that they think this right wing nastiness is now normal behaviour.

HeIenaDove · 14/12/2019 17:21

Another thread.

twitter.com/rodjgrimmer/status/1205563367714365440?s=20

HeIenaDove · 14/12/2019 17:27

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/foodbank-app-miriam-cates-mp-conservative-general-election-universal-credit-a9245901.html

A newly-elected Conservative MP has been criticised after it emerged she owns an app which charges foodbanks to include their shopping lists of needed items.

Miriam Cates, who won the seat of Penistone and Stocksbridge in South Yorkshire in Thursday’s election, and her husband Dave are behind the app called Foodbank.

Launched in 2014, the app allows individual foodbanks to register which particular items of food they need, so people keen to donate can ensure they purchase things actually needed by their local facility

However, any foodbank which wishes to sign up to the app must first pay a fee of £180, which the company says is to cover the cost of setting up the new charity within the app’s system.

Ms Cates’s defeated Labour opponent in Penistone and Stocksbridge, Francyne Johnson, said she was very concerned by how the Foodbank app sought to profit from food poverty

dontmentionbookclub · 14/12/2019 17:55

Just discovered this thread so thank you OP. It's been devastating and I can't bring myself to discuss politics irl with many people now as it will just upset me. I'm a Labour Party member and I'm looking forward now to voting for Corbyn's successor and I just hope it's a good one. I'm very fortunate that my DH has the same political views as me because otherwise I'd be even more depressed about it all. I also had my hopes up, stupidly, like many other Labour voters - thinking it might be okay, when now it seems inevitable it was never going to be.

Karwomannghia · 14/12/2019 17:55

There really needs to be legally a very easily accessible and clear way for people to understand government spending. As opposed to propaganda, lies and false promises. People genuinely have no idea what they’re voting for.

Piggywaspushed · 14/12/2019 17:59

What is even worse Cates is (was) a teacher. The Tories seem to have found quite a few teachers for their candidates.

So, clearly they are a happy part of the exodus from the classroom!!

mathanxiety · 14/12/2019 20:52

Karwomannghia

There is a way. It's called teaching Economics in school.

fastliving · 14/12/2019 21:44

Just found this thread...I need a hug.
Luckily where I live didn't vote Conservative, so at least I can be proud of that.

TheBlueStocking · 14/12/2019 21:57

@fastliving

Hugs x

Minesril · 15/12/2019 07:27

One (small in the scheme of things) thing which has upset me is the reason my SIL gave for voting Tory: 'That hospital photo was fake.'
'Erm, no that story was fake...the photo was real...'
'Well she was a bad mother for leaving her child on the floor.'
'What was she supposed to do? There were no beds!'
'Hold him?'
'For six hours??'
'And then she put his photo on social media to make a political point.'
DH had to hang up then as he was getting too upset.

What a callous society we're turning into. And a deeply divided one; DH still hasn't spoken to her. That really terrifies me.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 15/12/2019 12:20

Minesril there are still people claiming that photo was a fake, even though that has been totally debunked.

TheBlueStocking · 15/12/2019 15:11

What's annoying me is that despite things like that, people are still claiming it was all Jeremy Corbyn's fault for not being nice enough. He was absolutely lovely!

He met some friends of mine on the train once and sat and chatted with them for ages.

HeIenaDove · 15/12/2019 20:30

"there are still people claiming that photo was a fake, even though that has been totally debunked"

its gaslighting on a major scale. The Grenfell residents have had this for the last two and a half years. Endless UNTRUE tweets and comments about how the fire was the fault of Mr Kebede and that he packed a bag and fled even though there is CCTV VIDEO evidence that the opposite is true. He went round warning all the neighbours he could.

Endless racist untrue tweets and comments about how they are all illegal immigrants. Ive seen tweets accusing them of being bomb makers.

Has anyone been prosecuted for this apart from the people who burned that effigy ...........nope and they got off.

Gaslighting racism and Islamophobia running unchecked..................oh but look .........Corbyn. Xmas Hmm

jewel1968 · 15/12/2019 20:53

Apparently Labour lost most votes to Lib Dems, SNP and Green around 1.1 million with most to Lib Dems.

Tippexy · 15/12/2019 23:14

The hospital photo was a fake - the mother is a Labour activist - the child was clearly in hospital but it was a set up photo and ‘leak.’

FlamingoAndJohn · 15/12/2019 23:27

The hospital photo was a fake - the mother is a Labour activist - the child was clearly in hospital but it was a set up photo and ‘leak.’

And your source for this information?

TheBlueStocking · 15/12/2019 23:30

@Tippexy

Fuck me! NO!

StarbucksSmarterSister · 15/12/2019 23:50

Tippexy

I don't believe a word. Source? Not FB or Twitter gossip either.

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