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Unplanned - Abortion Film **Trigger Warning** Title edited by MNHQ sensitive content*

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Mum2386 · 20/09/2019 10:33

Hi,
Last night I watched a film called Unplanned, which is based on a true story of a lady working within an abortion clinic called ‘Planned Parenthood’. The film itself brought me to tears on many occasions and it’s made me feel very uncomfortable surrounding abortion. I had an unplanned pregnancy with my third child but knew abortion wasn’t an option for me. I am quite shocked by the amount of abortions that still take place within our society. Does anyone else feel this way? I know we all have different views but i just wondered what other people’s thoughts were on this very sensitive topic.

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RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 22/09/2019 22:38

Strange outlook

It’s honestly really weird that you keep coming out with these little comments

Like the logic ones...its not strange or illogical, masses and masses of people have the same views

Its just different to your opinion, its not a gotcha

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 22:39

It's interesting that you want to blame someone for it

What? You don’t think being put on the wrong medication should result in blame? I should have reasonable been able to expect a 99% success rate given I took the medication perfectly. In actuality the success rate was almost halved.

You’re suggesting that the HCP isn’t at fault at all for incorrect prescribing?

You’re thick as mince aren’t you love?

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 22:40

Indeed. I’ve noticed how they’ve completely ignored any and all references to illegal abortions.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 22:40

A newborn is an autonomous individual, actualized, and not reliant on the body of another for survival.

A newborn relies on somebody to look after it so of course it is reliant on the body of another in some sense. If the baby could be removed and grown outside the mother would that be acceptable to you ?

As i've said abortion is not something women do to themselves or by themselves, if it were and women could spontaneously self abort then what you have said would make sense.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 22:41

Advanced search is a wonderful thing....very, very interesting.

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 22:41

No, a newborn does not rely on the body of another in the way a fetus, which is inside the body of someone else, does, as you well know.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 22:41

You’re thick as mince aren’t you love?

Lol. I'm not the one insisting that I can have sex 100% free of the risk of pregnancy, but whatever you say "sweetheart"

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 22:41

The anti abortion crew are comfortable with the human toll of unsafe abortion, for some reason. In fact would be keen to increase it.

That's because women must be punished. Not only did they have sex , they're trying to avoid the "natural " consequences by trying to get an abortion, which would be illegal.

Triple double whammy sin. Those hussies deserve to die. They "chose" to do it after all.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 22:43

I'm not the one insisting that I can have sex 100% free of the risk of pregnancy, but whatever you say "sweetheart

You’re the only one mentioning 100%.

Do at least try and read what people write. Sound it out phonetically if it helps you. I get people don’t all have the same level of education but it helps to at least try.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 22/09/2019 22:44

'm not the one insisting that I can have sex 100% free of the risk of pregnancy

Well you can...

Really need to stop dealing in absolutes

I know im being picky

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 22:44

As i've said abortion is not something women do to themselves or by themselves, if it were and women could spontaneously self abort then what you have said would make sense.

Unless abortion is illegal and they resort to various diy methods like herbs,poisons,trauma to the womb etc.

Luckily we've come to recognise that this doesn't benefit women,foetuses,babies or society as a whole.

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 22:45

As for your last point; it’s just more tedious sophistry from you. Women will abort whether you morally approve or not, whether it’s legal or not. Legal abortion protects women, that is why we have it.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 22/09/2019 22:47

Women will abort whether you morally approve or not, whether it’s legal or not. Legal abortion protects women, that is why we have it

Absolutely

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 22:48

No, a newborn does not rely on the body of another in the way a fetus, which is inside the body of someone else, does, as you well know.

That is not the point, the point is that I was told I have no right to an opinion on things that do not affect me. This situation is an example of something which is morally wrong even though it does not affect me directly.

Aaarrgghhh · 22/09/2019 22:49

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken Anyone can look after a newborn, that is the fucking difference. It is already born any by being born it becomes its own person. An embryo needs the host (the mother) to keep it alive, it will not survive outside of the body even with help. Stop being so fucking stupid.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 22:50

the point is that I was told I have no right to an opinion on things that do not affect me

You have every right to an opinion for yourself. You have no right to inflict your opinion on others.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 22/09/2019 22:51

"The anti abortion crew are comfortable with the human toll of unsafe abortion, for some reason. In fact would be keen to increase it."

Because pregnancy is the punishment for having sex.

Not "consequence".

Punishment.

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 22:51

Can we just skip to the ranting about us being babykillers already? That’s how debates with anti abortionists usually go, and as interesting as this thread has been, you’ve been banging the same repetitive drum for about ten pages now. It’s boring.

Fraggling · 22/09/2019 22:53

'As i've said abortion is not something women do to themselves or by themselves,'

Ok you don't know what you're talking about.

Women have done all sorts of stuff to induce miscarriage (so abortion) since forever.

DoctorAllcome · 22/09/2019 22:54

@idontbelievethisnsmeistaken

I can respect your view on abortion. Even the bit about not wanting your tax money to go towards it. To that end, you are invited to immigrate to the USA. Vote with your feet. Move here, for here we are a country where no tax dollars are spent on abortions!
Since you also object to free recreational sex, you can, without looking to hard, find and employer who will offer you no health insurance! There are even religious employers that will gladly offer you health insurance minus that pesky contraception as well.
Just pick your State wisely, may I recommend Alabama? Their laws coincide most closely with your viewpoint.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 22:55

I get people don’t all have the same level of education but it helps to at least try.

Well you see, the problem is rather that no amount of education will make your statements sensible or logical.

Whether a mistake was made or not, there was a still a chance you would become pregnant, this is the way penetrative sex works you see sweetie.

Your risk of pregnancy would have been significantly lower without the mistake of course, but that doesn't mean the risk was 0. Anyway it doesn't matter to you whether the HCP made an error or not, you would have aborted anyway so I'm not sure why you seem to think that if you try really hard not to get pregnant it somehow means that you don't think society is morally compelled to provide you with an abortion because you want to have sex. Perhaps with all your obvious education and intellect you can point this out to me, because me being thick and all, I just can't see it.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 22:57

Since you also object to free recreational sex

You can have "recrational" sex as much as you want, i just wanted to hear why you should feel morally compelled to pay for my abortion because i think nature is not fair to me and gets in the way of me shagging whoever i want to.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 22:57

you would have aborted anyway so I'm not sure why you seem to think that if you try really hard not to get pregnant it somehow means that you don't think society is morally compelled to provide you with an abortion because you want to have sex

Because it’s really very easy. I live in a society where just that can happen. It isn’t about morals, it’s about what I can access.

I really hope your specific tax is paying the bill for all the contraception I use to fuck about Wink

DoctorAllcome · 22/09/2019 22:57

Don’t worry mumsnet, send
“The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.” Over here and then they can actually try and live under what they think is progress. Get a taste of the bitter medicine they so willingly recommend to others.

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 22:57

So what's the option? Have however many babies "God blesses you with" or never have sex?