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Unplanned - Abortion Film **Trigger Warning** Title edited by MNHQ sensitive content*

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Mum2386 · 20/09/2019 10:33

Hi,
Last night I watched a film called Unplanned, which is based on a true story of a lady working within an abortion clinic called ‘Planned Parenthood’. The film itself brought me to tears on many occasions and it’s made me feel very uncomfortable surrounding abortion. I had an unplanned pregnancy with my third child but knew abortion wasn’t an option for me. I am quite shocked by the amount of abortions that still take place within our society. Does anyone else feel this way? I know we all have different views but i just wondered what other people’s thoughts were on this very sensitive topic.

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StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 19:44

Who is forcing women to have abortions at 35 weeks?

BertrandRussell · 22/09/2019 19:44

“I would bet that 99% of people would find witnessing a "forced abortion" on a 35 week pregnant women more traumatic than her giving birth naturally.“
I’d make that 100%. Why are we talking about forced abortions?

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 22/09/2019 19:44

Who the fuck is running around making women have abortions at 35 weeks?

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 19:45

You don’t get to impose on their life choices anymore than they can impose upon yours. That is the beauty of freedom.

Laws change and societies ideas of what is and is not morally acceptable is hardly set in stone.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 19:46

Who the fuck is running around making women have abortions at 35 weeks?

A PP said that not providing access to abortion was the moral equivalent of forced abortion.

Sagradafamiliar · 22/09/2019 19:46

Idont your last post makes it sound like some people are bitter about having to be parents when there are other 'entitled' people who make the choice to have an abortion instead and why should they be able to have sex and not worry about having to have a child. It's just nasty, bonkers stuff.

Saucery · 22/09/2019 19:46

We’re not going to slip as far back as whichever medieval society you’ve slimed out from.

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 19:47

You’re making less and less sense.

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 19:47

@idontbelievethisnsmeistaken banning abortion means women being killed,maimed and butchered. Means A LOT of babies being born in systems that are not equipped to cope with it, many of those babies ending up at best neglected at worst dead.

How is that any better?

Aaarrgghhh · 22/09/2019 19:49

think that these two things are quite simply not equal. Forcing someone to have an abortion against their will is in no way the moral equivalent of e.g. the failure of a society to provide a woman at 35 weeks gestation access to a paid medical expert willing to perform an abortion. They are in no way morally equivalent.

That’s made me feel sick.

The thing is, men can have sex and get off lightly, women can’t, therefore women need these extra measures and men don’t. I can’t understand why you can’t see that by denying abortion you are condemning women to basically be celibate or give birth to a baby they don’t want. How lovely for a child to be brought into the world unwanted and then thrown into a care system that is shit. Urgh, I hate when pro forced birthers say that the pro choice aren’t nice or are evil etc when clearly it’s the other way around really. Yay life! no matter the quality..

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 19:49

Laws change and societies ideas of what is and is not morally acceptable is hardly set in stone.

And despite that,regardless of the legal status of abortions they have always existed throughout society and civilisations(starting in ancient times) throughout the globe.

What does that tell you?

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 22/09/2019 19:49

So no one...thats a relief

Though chinas one child policy and forced abortion makes for harrowing stories

A mothers ordeal is one of the books...just horrendous

Sorry not the point i know

Saucery · 22/09/2019 19:49

And don’t forget, @idontbelievethisnsmeistaken, if a woman who has attempted a self- or back street abortion dies, which she is likely to do, the baby you claim to care so much about dies anyway.
So where would your control of women stop, exactly?

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 19:51

www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-worldwide

Here’s your ‘pro life’ reality:
‘Of the 56 million induced abortions that took place each year during 2010–2014, an estimated 25 million (45%) were unsafe. In all, 55% of abortions each year were safe, 31% were less safe, and 14% were least safe.’

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 19:53

Sorry not the point i know

It's kinda on the point. It's just as horrifying and barbaric as denying women abortion. It's taking away choice,free will and bodily autonomy.

Both sides of a putrid shit coin.

MyNewBearTotoro · 22/09/2019 19:55

Abortions at 35 weeks are incredibly incredibly rare and would only be where there was something wrong with the foetus that hadn’t been picked up on early or a risk to the life of the mother. Nobody in the UK is having an elective abortion at 35-weeks to get rid of a healthy foetus just because they’ve decided they don’t want a baby. It’s complete hyperbole to start talking about abortions at 35-weeks when over 90% of UK abortions occur under 12 weeks and only 0.1% occur after 24-weeks.

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 20:02

Abortions at 35 weeks are incredibly incredibly rare and would only be where there was something wrong

Yeah but other than the fact that it's more difficult to get rid of, are you saying you have a moral objection to women being allowed to abort at 35 weeks ?

The thing is, men can have sex and get off lightly

They might become fathers, but they get no say in that once they take the chance so they hardly get off free, they might not be compelled to support their offspring but they are still fathers.

And despite that,regardless of the legal status of abortions they have always existed throughout society and civilisations(starting in ancient times) throughout the globe.

This is not an argument, so has slavery for example until it was relatively recently outlawed on moral grounds.

WestBerlin · 22/09/2019 20:04

False analogy. Abolition freed people from oppression and violations of their autonomy
Anti abortion laws inflict them.

Saucery · 22/09/2019 20:05

‘It’s more difficult to get rid of’

Hmm Lovely dismissive wording about what you’ve previously referred to as ‘baby’ ..........

Are you sure your heart’s really in this discussion as Saddened Anti-Abortionist Tax Payer?

idontbelievethisnsmeistaken · 22/09/2019 20:08

You’re again ignoring the fact that everyone is obligated to pay tax, even for things they don’t like. Pro lifers are not special in this.

As i said, some people believe it the moral equivalent of child murder, they will never "suck it up". I'm not ignoring it at all.

i'm not sure what stating the law contributes to the discussion, people very strongly disagree with the law and regard it as an obscenity and a moral outrage.

I don't see why you think telling them to just shut up about it and how people have to accept laws they are not all that happy with etc. is going to persuade them.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2019 20:10

I don't see why you think telling them to just shut up about it and how people have to accept laws they are not all that happy with etc. is going to persuade them

Why do they need to be “persuaded”? If they pay tax it’s a fact.

Unless you’re suggesting forced-birther should be some sort of protected characteristic whereby they can choose how their tax is distributed?

Saucery · 22/09/2019 20:10

You do have to be persuaded, you just have to stay away from my womb Smile

Saucery · 22/09/2019 20:11

*don’t have to be

Aaarrgghhh · 22/09/2019 20:11

Meh, I’m done. Idiots will always be idiots.

StockTakeFucks · 22/09/2019 20:14

people very strongly disagree with the law and regard it as an obscenity and a moral outrage.

Oh yes,people. But not you,no of course not.