How do you pronounce ciabatta

[TrixieFranklin]

I've just realised my husband, mum and dad all pronounce Ciabatta completely differently.
Between them they say:
Key-a-bar-ter
Chee-bar-ter
Chee-a-bat-cha

Now I've been saying it, looking at it and thinking about it too much and the whole word looks ridiculous now!

How do you say it?

Did anyone see the video which did the rounds the other day of Joe Wicks pronouncing Brie and burrata reasonably accurately but pronouncing Wensleydale as ‘wensley-daah-lee’?

I saw that and wondered if he watched Emmer-daah-lay while eating it

Chi (short i) - barta

Cha-batter

Grat-si-eh

Where does the T sound in grazie come from?

Is there a foolproof way to learn to roll an r?

My throat just gets muddled and I can't do it, end up with a sort of light growling noise

Go to google translate, in the English box type in the work. Press the "sound" icon. You can hear it as many times as you like. I do this for words I don't know how to say!

Yum. I was wondering what to make for dinner.
Bruschetta it is!

It's the 'z'. Like pizza.

Where does the T sound in grazie come from?

Z in Italian is pronounced 'ts'. In German too actually.

I pronounce ciabatta “that awful dry bread.”

DP has a terrible problem with “pain au chocolat” and insists on calling them “choc au pans”

Z in Italian is pronounced 'ts'.

Does that mean Prezzo is pronounced Pretso?

'cos I've heard it pronounced many ways - but usually Pray-zo round here.

Now then, penne causes a problem in DH's house... also Siciliana

Z in Italian is pronounced 'ts'. In German too actually.

Ahhh, like the Russian ц

cha (chu) batta.
the 8 after the c makes it be pronounced ch not hard c

@beyondmy wits, yes in Italy a z is pronounced either tz or dz depending on the word, Pizza and Prezzo are tz

I say chee bat ah. Don't know if it is correct.

Italian z is pronounced tz, like for pizza you say peetza and not pizza (like whizzer). It’s actually the hardest sound for foreigners to get right.

Just like Italians who have been taught that the English a is in fact an e. Apple is therefore pronounced epple, this is what is taught in schools and has been since the dawn of time. My mum still cannot pronounce an English a properly. Drives me mad.

On another note, Italians love using English words, particularly in business. When I do a presentation in Italian I have to mispronounce words the Italian way or I just get blank looks, even from people who speak English. Bizarrely I can do the same presentation in English, pronouncing all the words normally, and no one has any problems with comprehension. It was the same in France (although I was encouraged to use the French equivalent more often).

Cross post with everyone else.

Yes Allie, just like the Russian ц, but a bit harder.

Chi-bata

"Bread"

Rolling an r - hmm: you put the tip of your tongue against your hard palate gently as you make an r sound and the tip rolls forward and vibrates giving the sound.

Che-bata

I say keyabatta. But I very much believe I'm in the monitory now!

Chee uh batter

Did anyone see the video which did the rounds the other day of Joe Wicks pronouncing Brie and burrata reasonably accurately but pronouncing Wensleydale as ‘wensley-daah-lee’?

Apparently he's 'cleared it up'. He knows everyone is trying to wind him up because he knows his cheeses and he's loved it since he was a kid.

Face. Palm.