How do you pronounce ciabatta

[TrixieFranklin]

I've just realised my husband, mum and dad all pronounce Ciabatta completely differently.
Between them they say:
Key-a-bar-ter
Chee-bar-ter
Chee-a-bat-cha

Now I've been saying it, looking at it and thinking about it too much and the whole word looks ridiculous now!

How do you say it?

Agree with a PP though that Italians are equally as guilty of mispronouncing English words. My Italian MIL insists that my pronunciation of Pimms is wrong as it should really be Peeems. And don't get me started on keeess for kiss, strawBErry and 'ow are you.

I love it when Italians think they are right not!
I have also argued with someone who insisted that 'professionality' was a correct English word and wanted it on their website (ok then!) and someone who said the English 'a' is always pronounced 'ay' as in brandy is br-ay-ndy - erm no the letter name sounds like ay but a can make many different sounds. But ok then! Have it your way. Whatever.

Cheeyabatter

Chorizo is pronounced with a 'ch' sound. The x at the start of some languages spoken in Spain is also pronounced 'ch'. Usually the stress in Spanish is on the penultimate syllable, unless there's an accent putting it elsewhere. Madrid, although we spell it the same in English, is pronounced more softly in Spanish - kind of a soft d combined with a th sound. And don't get me started on Vs and bs!

Vs are Bs in Spanish.

My Spanish boyfriend of a few years back cringes when English people say Vino instead of 'beeno' although admittedly Spanish Vs are much softer than English Bs. We don't really have an equivalent

I did some Italian at school (GCSE) and it was our teacher's pet hate on English pronunciation of Italian words

Cha batta
Ta-lee-a-tel-ee
Jo vaan ee (Giovanni)

Pronounce all letters
Ci = ch sound
Che = key sound

I remember having to practice rolling my R's too

It was forever ago now so can't recall any others

A question for the Italian speakers on this thread - how is latte correctly pronounced?

And am I correct in thinking that latte is Italian for milk, so obviously when we want a milky coffee, we're asking for the wrong thing anyway?

Cha bat a.

Also brus ketta for bruschetta and latteh not lartay.

I also know how to pronounce Moët et Chandon. Even though I’m common I’m a stickler for pronunciation.

You're right it means just milk. Italian, what we know as a latte is caffellatte or caffè con latte.

Latte is just pronounced lat- teh (Italian double consonant sound in the middle).

To be fair though, the 'a' in latte isn't as flat as the English 'a' in 'cat' for example. It's a bit longer, though nowhere near the 'aahh' that English speakers often use. I live in NW England and here people do tend to say it with a flat notthern 'a', which sounds just as wrong as laahhtay tbh.

Anyone for a panino?

It's not chee-a-bata. The 'i' is only there to make the 'c' into a 'ch' sound, it doesn't make an 'ee' sound at all.

This is correct.
For Ciao you say 'chow' you don't say chee-ow

Ooh Mardy - that's a whole other discussion!

Laaaahtay gets on my wick as a pronunciation. So does core-tardo in Costa. I've had my pronunciation of cortado corrected in more than one branch. It's a good thing they don't serve carajillos.

"Anyone for a panino?"

haha - at Gloucester Quays "Fresh Panini's are made all day"

(there is not a shaking head sadly emoji)

Eye Up, it's Chicken Fudgeyetahs for tea tonight.

...And in Tex-Mex, it is definitely jal-a-peenos, not hallapeyoss.

My very elderly MIL was serving up lunch - "Tighna, do you want some manji-towt?'
It was mange-tout. The 'manji' part she pronounced to rhyme with 'handy' and 'towt' like 'out'.
We call them that at home now (between ourselves, not in public).

Strictly will be back soon so we can all look forward to weekly updates on ‘jee-oh-vah-nee’

Did anyone see the video which did the rounds the other day of Joe Wicks pronouncing Brie and burrata reasonably accurately but pronouncing Wensleydale as ‘wensley-daah-lee’?

For me it's Americanised Italian that grates - we are closer to Italy yet we have to be told the American version of it???!!!
An English person would just say lattay if they weren't told this lah-tay, parmizhaaan business.
An American lady I knew in Italy once tried to tell a friend of mine who was learning Italian that the correct pronunciation of pasta was "paah-sta"

At the coffee shop, I often order a latte for myself and a milk for DS. Always makes me smile a little language nerd smile to myself

Cha-bat-ta

Now do grazie.

Anyone for a panino?

Even in full-on linguist mode I can't bring myself to ask for a panino. I think I'd have to say 2 panini rather than 2 paninis (or panini's ) though. The double plural is just too much for me.

Now do grazie.

Grat-si-eh

Oh yes - bruschetta . Hardly anyone gets that one right.

Thanks lazylinguist Many people just say grat-si, which always made my Italian teacher furious.