Jeffrey Epstein dead

[MrsVanCleef]

Al the scandals buried. DAMN!!

Only on mn could thread Bout epstein turn into trumps gait

Trumpgate.

Now I feel like a dick for making a joke on this thread.

What is it with the Royal Family and Jimmy Saville Peter Ball and now Epstein

I believe it's known as a complete lack of judgement

TBF they may or may not have known about Savile's crimes, but both Peter Ball and Epstein had already been exposed and yet continued to get royal support

rainbunny I have permanent double vision and couldn't possibly walk downstairs unaided without my specs. I can recognise people ok, but can't look at them comfortably at further than arms length without specs. I can read a book or newspaper uncorrected but not a computer screen or indeed an autocue if I were in that line of work.
I can't say what Trump's vision is like, but my view is that he's extremely unfit physically and that will be contributing to his mental state.

Why did Ghislaine Maxwell do what she did ?
Where is she now ?

She's a bit AWOL at the moment, no one knows where she is. I read that the authorities were looking for her.

She wanted to marry Epstein and the papers say she kept thinking.. I'll do one more thing for him and maybe he'll marry me.

And given her father, Robert, who raided all the pension funds of his companies to the tune of £500M... the apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it...

She is now labelled as a 'Madam', a sex trafficer and en enabler for Epstein, let's hope justice wins out

As usual it's always the women who get the prison sentences and those who actually perpetrated the rapes and abuse get off to continue to do it again. Never underestimate that a 72 year old man wont abuse a child.

I think Ghislaine Maxwell will turn out to be a latter day lord Lucan

"I think Ghislaine Maxwell will turn out to be a latter day lord Lucan"

It will be interesting to see where she finally turns up (if she does.) I'd start with countries without extradition treaties with the USA although there are fewer and fewer places without extradition treaties these days, so maybe Russia?

placemats have you read the reports. Ghislaine used a strap on to rape those girls.

Does anyone else think Epstein looks a bit like Andy Cohen, the Real Housewives guy?

I agree with Rainbunny that she might turn up in Russia, conveniently.

Why would Maxwell need to hide and not Prince Andrew?

prince andrew isn’t accused of trafficking girls. Surely you can see there is a huge difference in what they’ve been accused of?

She has not been formally accused of trafficking girls though. Innocent until proven guilty. As far as I'm aware there isn't a warrant out for her arrest. Prince Andrew has been accused of sexual abuse too.

Obviously Epstein was guilty and facing further charges without bail.

What do you mean by formally accused? Questioned by the police about it? I do feel understand what difference that makes. Maxwell has been accused by victims in civil case depositions of trafficking girls. PA has been accused of having sex with them. They are not the same thing

"Why would Maxwell need to hide and not Prince Andrew?"

Have you not read any of the reporting on this case? She could well end up being indicted for sex trafficking, grooming, pimping, sexual assault, statutory rape, false imprisonment and likely more crimes.

She was a full on participant in this. If you believe the evidence and accusations against Epstein then you have to acknowledge her extensive complicity.

They are the same thing though. Andrew sexually abused girls who had been trafficked.

Andrew must have known what was going on re Epstein.

Well I don’t think many people, including the police/courts/justice department would agree with you there

If Maxwell is guilty then there should be a warrant out for her arrest.

There isn't.

That should be:

IF and it's a big IF Maxwell is a trafficker and there is a reasonable suspicion that she is, then there should be a warrant out for her arrest.

So far, there isn't.

"They are the same thing though. Andrew sexually abused girls who had been trafficked."

That statement is extremely careless and there is no evidence yet to prove that he did have sex with the one victim beyond her word (which I believe). Assuming he did, his crimes still pale in comparison to Maxwell's actions.

That isn’t correct. You don’t have to be guilty to have a warrant out for your arrest. No one knows whether you’re guilty until you have been tried in a court.

We don’t know why there isn’t a warrant out for her arrest, there could be many reasons. It bears no relation to her guilt or otherwise

I fully expect there will be indictments that come down for Maxwell and perhaps others including Sarah Kellen. It won't happen overnight.