Anyone watching the Jade Goody doc

[Jomalaldi]

I’m loving watching this. God love jade. So sad her life was tragically short. It’s such a blast from the past. Anyone else watching?

I don’t see how going on reality tv is “making something of yourself”. It certainly isn’t something I would want anyone in my family to aspire to.

She got lucky. That is all. And what does misogyny have to do with it exactly?

You'd be amazed at what middle class men can get away with compared to working class women.

I dont thinkJade knew any other way to be, she exploited and was exploited the media created a monster but in the end Jade just wanted the money and thefame and that is what she got. I don't think she was racist a bully maybe she got swept along in it. i will probably watch it next week but I think her mother was a leech so I can't cope with Jackies sob stories so I might need to turn it.

Being a woman had nothing to do with it. She was an unpleasant woman, had she been a man she would still have been unpleasant. In fact that partner of her’s was clearly only with her for the money and that makes him equally unpleasant. The fact he hasn’t been allowed to see the boys since speaks volumes.

But it’s a poor argument when people start wailing on about this all being about her being a woman.

Fact is, if she'd been a well spoken, middle class man, this would have been forgotten about...instead she was totally demonised.

If she’d not died this wouldn’t be spoken about either.

I dont necessarily think it's wrong to speak ill of the dead when you're talking about factual stuff, it's just the name calling about certain situations that could be interpreted in different ways that I find repulsive.

@RageAgainstTheVendingMachine

That video with Jo O’Meara is sickening. How unbelievably transparent is she with her “poor little me, I’m just a bit dim and mentally fragile and going to lose my lovely house.”? Urgh.

That raised the possibility of something happening to Jade before she became sexually active. Perhaps she had been abused during this vulnerable period of her life.

If I recall correctly, Jade was given drugs from a very young age. It would be very easy to abuse a drugged child without them ever recalling it.

Ok I've watched it now and what I'm seeing with my older adult eyes is a woman with ADHD.

Doesn't excuse the racism but explains a lot.

I remember it at the time joxer and being somewhat sceptical (a cynic? me? ) as it was clearly a ploy for public sympathy. For someone with indian relatives, she seemed somewhat obtuse as to how she came across. Yes, there is always manipulative editing but even so. I can't imagine she'll be thrilled about the documentary and posters like me bringing it all back up when she has a son now.
She came off slightly better in an interview a year after the show aired.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-509227/Reviled-BB-star-Jo-OMeara-tells-refuge-animals-saved.html
I do remember at the time Davina said she hadn't done herself any favours with the original interview but Jo had criticised McCall for telling her when she came out that everything was fine so she felt even more ambushed later. No love lost there.

Danielle Lloyd is a foul woman. Constantly offensive and then plays the victim when pulled up on her mistakes and exaggerates for sympathy. I feel sorry for her children as they will have a lot to deal with when they're older from classmates thanks to their mother leaking her own sex tapes with Pringles in her vagina and calling her boys autistic as they are 'naughty' and 'odd'.

@NoCauseRebel Completely agree with your and similar posts. I despaired when she became the posterchild for a thick, ignorant, mentally lazy, get rich and gain notoriety trend, especially among women. She was a racist bully who picked on those different and especially when they strove to educate themselves. I feel sorry for the children and loved ones when any person dies very young. This does not change the fact though that I found her pretty vile and am surprised about her posthumous sainthood and am astonished about the hypocrisy when you are expected to ignore what the person was really like due to their untimely death.

@Grumpelstilskin spot on!

I don't think most people are saying that bad things people do when they are alive should be ignored once they are dead but clearly people have different opinions on her behaviour so to me that suggestions it is more how people understand her as opposed to factual.

You opinion is that you found her vile, my opinion is that I found her not necessarily to be as I felt she was a product of abuse and many other things and I believe she made mistakes. I can't see how you or I are wrong though, who is able to prove that. Do you know what she was really like? I don't as I didn't know her. Neither of our opinions are factual though.

My son has ADHD and certain behaviours could make him look like he is rude, whereas he is not actually rude, he may display behaviours that appear that way when he interrupts people etc but it's something he can't control very well yet. Peoples opinions will differ about him but it doesn't make him rude, it's just a perception. I don't find it any different with her. She was very immature and I suspect had other issues watching back.

That said, I wasn't and still am not a fan of Jades but I do believe there was a lot more to it than what we saw and she was very much exploited by BB and the press.

Tragic for any child to grow up without their mother, however the boys do seem to have benefitted from the stable, loving environment their father has provided. I wonder whether things would have been different for them had she lived

Vile vile vile!!!! She wasn’t an abusive mother, so because she was common it was better for her children’s future that she died! Eugh!

One of the saddest things I read recently about Jade is that when she was near the end she believed she had terminal cancer due to what happened on BB.

I have just looked up the article I read and this was also said by Shilpa Shetty after being on the show 'Things happen, people make mistakes and we all learn from them. But I can say one thing for sure. Jade didn’t mean to be racist. She isn’t a racist. I really don’t want to leave England putting anyone in trouble.' Shilpa also planned to visit her when she was ill but she became too ill.

@glitterfisher that’s why i’m asking, would a smear test have picked up her illness before it became terminal as I don’t know. I dunno if Scotland is different but i’ve Been having smears since I was 21.

Grumpelstilskin I agree with you 100%

Being dead does not absolve anyone and it’s puerile to think otherwise.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I agree...a truly vile comment. From everything I've seen of her, she appeared to be a good, loving mother. There's nothing to suggest otherwise.

@Likethebattle I don't think in Jade's case it would have made a difference, she had various treatments from when she was about 15 I think. For some reason I thought she hadn't had a smear prior to the one finding the last lot of abnormal cells due to her young age but I could be wrong. I believe she ignored an abnormal cells letter though. Sounds as if she was one of the very unlucky ones who would not have been saved regardless. I do remember a lot of talk about lowering the smear test age in England and thought it was part of her campaign but I could be getting it muddled.

Tragic for any child to grow up without their mother, however the boys do seem to have benefitted from the stable, loving environment their father has provided. I wonder whether things would have been different for them had she lived.

My God that's crass.