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Anyone watching the Jade Goody doc

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Jomalaldi · 07/08/2019 21:50

I’m loving watching this. God love jade. So sad her life was tragically short. It’s such a blast from the past. Anyone else watching?

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Sagradafamiliar · 08/08/2019 14:49

A simple smear test wouldn't have saved her life, nor did she not qualify for one as she was old enough and had had children.
She had had quite severe symptoms of the cancer for some time but put off going to the doctor's. It was very advanced once diagnosed, don't want to be graphic out of respect but it wasn't something she wouldn't have noticed. The fact that cervical screening increased after her death could be positive but only because it's been used as a scare tactic and over simplified.
The docu was sad and like a PP said, a blast from the past. It was really quite a long time ago but at the same time, not that long ago at all.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 08/08/2019 15:11

I do apologise missy - I mistakenly thought she had ignored a letter to have her smear, when in fact she ignored a letter to have abnormal cells removed again.
(still does not make it her fault to be clear. Fear is a natural reaction. I only went for my post birth check up following a traumatic birth after my friend practically dragged me to the gynae)

EdWinchester · 08/08/2019 15:16

I thought she was vile.

Mesmermancer · 08/08/2019 15:19

battered an eye lid batted. I hope nobody's eye lids were battered

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 08/08/2019 15:20

I don’t think she was racist I think she was thick- most likely warm hearted and caring but thick.
So sad watching program 1 knowing what will happen in the end.
The only thing that grips me is the notion that people like her or Katie price or any of the million others are savvy business women. They just literally put their name on everything and everything.

cavalier · 08/08/2019 15:25

Isadora2007
Sorry but give the poor lady a break
She was making money for her babies
She wasn’t One of the great train robbers
How can you say it was sad in one breath and then condemn her in the next ?
Very sad documentary ... part 2 next week

Sagradafamiliar · 08/08/2019 15:32

The PR/photographer man (or whoever he was) was a joke trying to make out that Jade was some kind of cunning mastermind and in charge of her own exploitation. Whatever makes him feel better, I suppose. She was horrendously taken advantage of. If she didn't arrange those photo ops and paid for them, they'd have got the pics anyway and taken all the money.
Shame on whoever thought it was wise to fly her into India's BB whilst she was waiting on diagnostic test results and have to be told she had cancer on camera in the diary room as well.
I wonder how part 2 will handle the racism next week, her boys will probably be watching :(

Sagradafamiliar · 08/08/2019 15:34

Got paid for them*

CallMeOnMyCell · 08/08/2019 15:36

I don’t think she was racist, she was a product of her appalling upbringing and therefore uneducated and didn’t have the foresight to understand the impact of her words and actions. Danielle Lloyd is vile though.

formerbabe · 08/08/2019 15:37

I thought she was vile

Not as vile as you though...making such repulsive remarks about a dead woman.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 08/08/2019 15:39

Danielle Lloyd is vile though vaguely recall she just came out saw the footage and apologised- Jo O’Mera on the other hand denied any wrong doing then did that nauseating sky interview crying in her house over it

slipperywhensparticus · 08/08/2019 15:56

I stand by what I've said zero tolerance is the only way

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 08/08/2019 16:02

Danielle claims in that therapy session (apalling stop-start cut quality, I only saw the BB stuff) that she never saw all the footage as she never watches what she's in, still denied she said anything racist (even though she had done an impression of Shilpa complete with mock accent and had been involved in words rhyming with p**i piss-taking), still denied she was a bully and one of her own family said she did not seem to care or want to discuss the effect it had had on them when she came out as she was adamant she had done nothing wrong. 21 and zero self-awareness but this interview was two years ago.
She claims she was trying to be with the 'cool gang' and therefore influenced by Jo/Jade. Jade was very much in attack as a form of defence of her appalling mother and boyfriend. It became a complete pile-on and pile-up.

EdWinchester · 08/08/2019 16:07

A tragic demise does not cancel out a nasty, volatile personality. She was a thoroughly unpleasant character.

NoCauseRebel · 08/08/2019 16:08

The only reason she is loved is because she is dead.

It’s a terrible tragedy for someone’s family when they die so young, however all the talk of how wrong it is to say anything bad about a dead woman is pure hypocrisy. People have no issue in putting someone down while they’re alive, some of the things said about so-called celebs on here are awful. So why is it that if that person is dead those things become less valid?

The problem with her is that she started a culture where being a bit thick and low class can make you a celebrity these days. No longer do you have to possess an actual talent, if you have either a decent body or a fowl mouth and are a bit thick into the bargain that will do.

People say things like she was a shrewd business woman about both her and Katie price. And yet both are/were deeply unpleasant individuals who stopped at nothing to get what they want, including selling out their own kids in KP’s case.

EdWinchester · 08/08/2019 16:09

Hear hear.

formerbabe · 08/08/2019 16:19

@EdWinchester

A tragic demise does not cancel out a nasty, volatile personality. She was a thoroughly unpleasant character.

Whether you think that or not, speaking ill of the dead is a pretty unpleasant thing to do.

formerbabe · 08/08/2019 16:23

People have no issue in putting someone down while they’re alive, some of the things said about so-called celebs on here are awful. So why is it that if that person is dead those things become less valid?

Because the dead can't defend themselves.

I thought that was pretty obvious.

NoCauseRebel · 08/08/2019 16:23

Whether you think that or not, speaking ill of the dead is a pretty unpleasant thing to do. why? And where do you draw that line? Does that mean that speaking of any dead is nasty? Myra Hindley? Jimmy Saville whose crimes didn’t come out until he was dead?

I’m not making a comparison between JG and either of those individuals, however they’re all dead, and it seems that people are selective in terms of which dead it is unpleasant to speak ill of. You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s always wrong to speak of the dead, or being dead doesn’t absolve you of the things you did/were when you were alive...

EdWinchester · 08/08/2019 16:26

But it’s an inherent part of her ‘story’. Much like Princess Diana is known to have been manipulative and difficult.

Yes, they died tragically young. But you couldn’t ever talk about either of them without acknowledging their flaws, It’s rather silly to think a thread on here about Jade would not broach her personality. And I think it’s just fine to ‘speak ill of the dead’ when appropriate,

Soola · 08/08/2019 16:26

@formerbabe

Whether you think that or not, speaking ill of the dead is a pretty unpleasant thing to do.

Hitler’s dead, I don’t see anyone bigging him up.

🙄

NoCauseRebel · 08/08/2019 16:27

So Jimmy Saville then? He was never brought to account in life for the things he’s supposed to have done. Now he’s dead he can’t defend himself, therefore speaking ill of him is wrong and unpleasant. No didn’t think so.

Fact here is that if JG had still been alive she would be a has-been by now, overtaken by whatever nobody had stepped into the limelight. Prior to falling ill she was actually famous in life for being an unpleasant individual. As I said upthread the only reason she is now loved is because she is dead. Had she not died people would be saying “jade who?”

formerbabe · 08/08/2019 16:29

So much of what people are saying about her is nothing but misogyny and classism.... people just hated seeing a poorly educated, working class woman make something of themselves.

PorkHollywood · 08/08/2019 16:29

I didn't watch the documentary, I was never really a fan. The bullying incident in Big Brother is a hard watch, and I class Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara just as bad as Jade was.
I feel sad for her boys growing up without their mum.

formerbabe · 08/08/2019 16:30

And then the second they make a mistake, they can all jump on them and tear them apart.