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If you voted Leave, did you/do you want 'no deal'?

338 replies

KennDodd · 29/07/2019 15:43

No arguments or even debates about Brexit, not wanting to start a fight, just want to count the numbers in a very unscientific manner.
It seems any deal at all is quickly falling off the table, never mind the easiest deal in history.

If you voted Leave , do you want 'no deal'?

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Blowingthroughthejasmine · 29/07/2019 17:19

Dull that's not true at all.

I've seen endless eloquent posts detailing why various people want to leave, all reasonable and balanced and the same suspects have drowned them out.

Jupiter13 · 29/07/2019 17:26

Leave is leave...who cares about the deal..we can negotiate later...let's get away from the dictatorship of the EU...who agrees...☺️☺️☺️☺️

ithinkiammelting · 29/07/2019 17:30

No-one seems to be able to explain what is actually in the 'deal' and whenever we go to the EU cap in hand with yet another idea they reject it, so this is a question that can't really be answered.

My suspicion is that if we agree to a deal it will be on their terms. If we don't agree and have a no-deal Brexit then that will be on their terms as well, as they can then dictate trade terms etc to us. They've got us over a barrel whichever way it goes.

Two years were spent fiddlling about hoping that the problem would go away if they prevaricated long enough. It hasn't gone away and that delay is why we are up shit creek without a paddle now.

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centrifugal · 29/07/2019 17:31

Voted leave.
Would love 'no deal'.

Cinammoncake · 29/07/2019 17:34

whenever we go to the EU cap in hand with yet another idea they reject it,

This is simply not the case. If you think that, you have been misled. We negotiated a deal with the EU, negotiated fairly by both sides. The reason it didn't happen is because the UK parliament wouldn't pass the deal, a lot of which was to do with Conservative party MPs on the far right.

The EU have bent over backwards to try to accommodate us, giving us extra time to try to pass the deal. The extra time was taken up choosing Boris Johnson (so far) who's now trying to make out the mess is the EU's fault.

MillieMollieMandi · 29/07/2019 17:34

Voted leave. Definitely support no deal.

blacksax · 29/07/2019 17:35

Three voters in this house, two remainers and one brexiteer and all three are now saying just get on with it and leave.

So 1 brexiteer for leave with no deal,
and 2 remainers for no deal as well.

ithinkiammelting · 29/07/2019 17:45

This is simply not the case

It simply is the case, and don't patronise me. I suppose another way you could look at it is that the current deal (the precise and detailed contents of which seem to be a remarkably well-kept secret) would sell us down the river, so our parliament has said that it is unacceptable. If we went back to the EU and told them what we would find acceptable, they would say no.

So I stand by my previous comment.

Cinammoncake · 29/07/2019 17:46

It simply is the case, and don't patronise me. I suppose another way you could look at it is that the current deal (the precise and detailed contents of which seem to be a remarkably well-kept secret) would sell us down the river, so our parliament has said that it is unacceptable. If we went back to the EU and told them what we would find acceptable, they would say no.

It was a NEGOTIATION. We negotiated a deal.

Cinammoncake · 29/07/2019 17:47

the current deal (the precise and detailed contents of which seem to be a remarkably well-kept secret

They're not secret.

hadthesnip2 · 29/07/2019 17:53

Yes, I voted to leave. Deal or no deal. We should have left months ago & the EU knew TM was flaky. More than happy to leave without a deal.

Simkin · 29/07/2019 17:58

I know 3 people who voted leave and have since died. You can count their opinion as you wish but I don't think you can say they want to leave with no deal right now. Even if they do, their opinion counts for 0. Or, in fact, - 3.

hadthesnip2 · 29/07/2019 18:04

Really @cinammoncake...??

The EU had us over a barrel. They got everything they wanted & UK nothing. There was a programme on tv just the other week where twice it was said by leading EU negotiators that the UK were never going to get a good deal because it would be a signal to any other country wishing to leave. It has been clear to anyone that the Withdrawal Agreement was not good for the UK, especially around Ireland. The only thing to get passed through Parliament was the Malthouse Ammendment - which basically was the WA without the backstop. We should have just gone back to the EU & said "thats what the UK parliament will accept" and that's it.

Paddington68 · 29/07/2019 18:06

Let's stay. It is madness. It's all Boris Big Bollocks at the moment.

Cinammoncake · 29/07/2019 18:17

So we can't negotiate well and we're a small country who won;t have much clout with large trading blocs by your own analysis hadthsnip
We'll be soooo much better off after no deal eh Hmm

bakingbernie · 29/07/2019 18:17

I just want to leave so yes to no deal.

Ivegotthree · 29/07/2019 18:18

I voted Leave and am bored of remainers not getting over the fact their side was in the minority.

GloGirl · 29/07/2019 18:25

If its no deal or no Brexit, I would choose no deal.

DuckWillow · 29/07/2019 18:26

FIL voted Leave but now says he wants to remain. This is because of the No Deal fears he has.

bellinisurge · 29/07/2019 18:26

Interested , too, op.

DuckWillow · 29/07/2019 18:28

I am sick of the whole thing. I voted Remain but couldn't give a rats arse anymore. Its been a disaster and I just want action taken to either leave or stay. I no longer care which.

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KennDodd · 29/07/2019 18:31

12/1 (?) Happy about no deal.

A couple seemed ambiguous and I'll not counting other people you know, just posters.

A leave voter irl told me a while ago that Leave voters wanted no deal all along and knew this would be the outcome. I disagreed and said some of them would have wanted Norway or EEA or one of the other options that were talked about before the referendum. Hence my very unscientific research on MN.

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DuckWillow · 29/07/2019 18:31

What WE want is immaterial. You can be happy with No Deal or not happy or want to Remain.
Its quite clear to me now that even if we'd voted to jump off a cliff Boris would push it through regardless of any consequences.
He doesn't care one way or another about the likes of normal people no matter How they voted in the referendum.

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KennDodd · 29/07/2019 18:32

13/1

Seems a big majority so far DO want no deal.

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Jupiter13 · 29/07/2019 18:34

When push comes to shove the German car manufacturers won't allow a no deal...it will cripple the German economy..😁