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If you voted Leave, did you/do you want 'no deal'?

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KennDodd · 29/07/2019 15:43

No arguments or even debates about Brexit, not wanting to start a fight, just want to count the numbers in a very unscientific manner.
It seems any deal at all is quickly falling off the table, never mind the easiest deal in history.

If you voted Leave , do you want 'no deal'?

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WarriorsAll · 30/07/2019 16:51

@hadthesnip2 it wasn't the terrorists that started it - they certainly responded to it!

MindyStClaire · 30/07/2019 16:51

Of course it's not. Civil unrest due to a democratic right not being upheld is not "terrorism"

Grin

You do realise that's basically the entire reasoning behind the IRA?

bellinisurge · 30/07/2019 16:51

Threaten to smash my windows or wreck my town if I don't agree with you. Or shoot my MP, maybe.
I live in a Tommy Robinson area. Feels like a physical undemocratic tbreat to me.

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SistemaAddict · 30/07/2019 16:58

I doubt there would be any civil unrest anyway. Look what happened on March 29th. Nothing

Possibly, just possibly, because we didn't actually leave on that day and the can was kicked down the road. Therefore both sides were kept mollified and nothing to get too get up about at that point.

hadthesnip2 · 30/07/2019 16:59

I think there is a big difference between protesting (civil unrest) and killing innocent people.

Anyway, I'm not advocating either & said earlier I dont think there would be any sort of "unrest" if we didn't leave on Oct 31st. But by god politics will never be the same again.

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KennDodd · 30/07/2019 17:19

Those predicting civil unrest, let's imagine we had another referendum on 'no deal' v Remain and Remain won 60/40 with a higher turn out than last time (not suggesting this would happen btw) do you think civil unrest is still likely or legitimate?

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bellinisurge · 30/07/2019 17:27

So if someone gets killed in civil unrest, say, my daughter going about her business and getting caught up in it, that's fine, is it? Or maybe her not going to school because there are knuckleheads at large on her route, that's ok too is it?

Motheroffourdragons · 30/07/2019 17:55

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EleanorTopaz · 30/07/2019 18:28

Both DH and I voted leave. We are both happy to leave with no deal and always expected that to be a possibility. It would be madness to take no deal off the table now.

crankyassnoperope · 30/07/2019 18:44

What's the running tally please OP? Most leavers still no-dealers?

BoneyBackJefferson · 30/07/2019 19:13

KennDodd Tue 30-Jul-19 17:19:12

to answer your 2 new questions
unrest likely - Yes but not wide spread
legitimate - not in this case

ForalltheSaints · 30/07/2019 20:03

However we leave the EU, we will be economically worse off, the only question is by how much. Interesting to see some people admit to wanting no deal, at least in preference to remaining. I wonder whom they think will suffer most economically?

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KennDodd · 30/07/2019 21:21

36/5 (I think)

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RoarkesMagicCoats · 30/07/2019 21:51

Still no one willing to say what no deal will mean to them and the rest of the UK though.

RoarkesMagicCoats · 30/07/2019 21:51

Or what it looks like.

DuckWillow · 30/07/2019 21:56

See now I feel guilty about wanting us to just get on with it became we still haven’t addressed the NI issue .

And that is the issue which concerns me most.

ICouldntHelpButWonder · 30/07/2019 22:33

Voted Leave, happy with No Deal.

scaryteacher · 30/07/2019 22:58

Mother db said she wasn't very good when she went down to SHAPE. Dh wasn't too impressed when she went to NATO HQ. I went (with dh and a friend) to the presentation at BSB, and she seemed quite good.

I will miss the friends I made here, but won't miss Belgium dreadfully, as it drives me batshit at times. I am looking forward to moving home where the bureaucracy makes sense to me. I'll miss the massive bags of chocolate drops from Colryut though, and the celeriacs the size of footballs. One of my friends will be out here for a year longer than us, so I'll be back to see her.

I won't miss the priority from the right, or the regular dance with death on the Ring!

WarriorsAll · 30/07/2019 23:40

happy with No Deal What does this mean - happy skipping down the street - made my day because life will improve enormously, I know how my life will improve as a consequence, I have plans on how to take advantage? or resigned to having no other option to get what I what, bored with the conversation, I don't care anymore, I don't like to wait for what I want, I voted ages ago, I don't want to wait for sometime better..... I don't want to wait - fuck the cost!

hadthesnip2 · 30/07/2019 23:45

Because we dont bloody know @RoarkesMagicCoats. I personally dont think much will change & believe that it will be a lot less 'cliffedge' than what is being perpetrated. The EU will want any exit to be as smooth as possible, especially at French ports & I'm certainly not going out stockpiling food. Made me laugh 6 months ago when there was a news item about people maybe not being able to get their usual BLT sandwich for lunch due to no fresh lettuce. Last time I looked I believe we can grow lettuce I'm the UK.

Cobblersandhogwash · 31/07/2019 07:14

Erm yes. We can grow lettuce in the U.K. Absolutely.

But can we or do we grow enough to meet our demands?

Cobblersandhogwash · 31/07/2019 07:16

A withdrawal agreement is written into Article 50.

So it's an integral part of the process after triggering Article 50.

Cobblersandhogwash · 31/07/2019 07:19

Interesting that the British public were only really googling No Deal from July 2018.

This is where Leavers say they didn't need to google it before then because they all knew exactly what it was before then anyway.

If you voted Leave, did you/do you want 'no deal'?
Motheroffourdragons · 31/07/2019 07:58

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WarriorsAll · 31/07/2019 08:01

Erm yes. We can grow lettuce in the U.K. Absolutely.

But can we or do we grow enough to meet our demands?

And how quickly can we anticipate those demands for all the fresh items that might get stuck at the port, the land will already be in use for something else, how long to obtain the necessary equipment, staff, package, contracts, planning permission, grow the bloody things. It's not like planting a few rows in your allotment.