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My mother is a fucking bitch. Anyone else's mother one too?

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Gottalovesummer · 10/06/2019 21:11

Too many examples to list here. But she's a narcissist, self centred, rude fucking person and I feel so much better writing it down here.

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EuromumAussiekid · 12/06/2019 09:11

My own mum is a much better grandma than mum. Ds particularly adores her and she him.

Greentreebeth · 12/06/2019 09:16

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SeaEagleFeather · 12/06/2019 09:16

vampirethriller Tue 11-Jun-19 08:11:48
^Yes. When I was younger she was vile. She would gaslight, she'd tell me I was allowed to do something then when I did she would insist she never said any such thing and punish me. She made up things she thought I'd done and punished me. She'd stop talking to me for weeks.
She used me as childcare and cook which meant I didn't have time for homework and then punish me when I fell behind.
I wasn't allowed sanpro. Then I was punished for getting blood on my clothes.
I'm 37 and don't trust her but I'm trying to be adult about it for my own daughter.^

@vampirethriller lovely, some of what you say is familiar. Honestly, the best thing you can do -for- your daughter is to walk away. The level of unhealthiness in your mother is not safe for anyone to be around, least of all vulnerable people - your daughter and you. You will always be vulnerable to her because she brought you up and that goes so so deep.

as for thebouguets, you might want to work out that just because you've had one experience it doesn't mean that everyone's is the same. "not perfect mother" is a scale from 1-10 and just because you've got one score doesnt mean everyone's got the same as you. "Not perfect" shouldn't mean 40 years of bullying, stabbing family members, and tolerating sexual abuse of her children"

It might help your children if you start to genuinely see that other people's experience isnt necessarily the same as yours, too. Oh, and work on your reading skills, perception, sense of proportion and tact.

SeaEagleFeather · 12/06/2019 09:24

@TheBouguets

Sorry.

Just read your updates, tbh I hadnt read that far and right now I'm having a difficult time and I would give anything for a loving mother I could go to. I'm also very angry about some of the parental fuckups and just couldn't bear reading more 'you're not perfect too, be patient'.

Completely agree that some daughters / sons can be awful too and there are few threads on that here, which gives a distorted picture (assuming that people think that the Mumsnet world is identical to the real one!)

EuromumAussiekid · 12/06/2019 10:12

greentreebeth what's the point in such a stupid remark?

whyohwhyowhydididoit · 12/06/2019 10:38

My mum is also very unpleasant. She was a violent, short tempered bully when we were children and my siblings are low or no contact with her. Nowadays she seldom voices anything openly but is very judgemental and passive-aggressive. She lives locally to me and knows many of my friends and in laws all of whom think she is an adorable, kindly, little old lady.

She puts on a great show. She visits older/iller acquaintances with flowers and hand made goodies, she remembers everyone’s birthday with a hand made card, she keeps a diary of bereavements and everyone gets a handwritten note on the anniversary of the death.

What they don’t know is what a horrible two faced bitch she is. How she badmouths them and judges and criticises them behind their backs. That all her kindliness and thoughtfulness (IMO) are narcissistic acts carried out to show how much better she is than other people who aren’t as selfless and sweet as she is.

The only people who see the ‘real’ her are me and her brother and his wife, all of whom have lived with her so she doesn’t bother to keep the act up when we are around. My DC have seen glimpses of her real self but they think they are anomalies and overlook them.

I see her because she is alone and lonely. I do what I can to support her practically but I am fully aware it’s all down to Fear, Obligation and Guilt. She is a parasite that drains me. And that same obligation means I keep up a pretence of her being lovely to other people. A very few know we have a ‘difficult’ relationship but only her brother knows the full truth.

Sorry - a rant. She really gets to me.

vampirethriller · 12/06/2019 10:43

You're right SeaEagleFeather. I live hundreds of miles away from her now which makes life a lot easier, I see her once a year.. Which still feels like too much to be honest.

headinhands · 12/06/2019 10:44

Mine seems incapable of forming lasting relationships with anyone other than her arsehole, Mail reading, husband.

user87382294757 · 12/06/2019 10:55

As a PP above has, mine also made up odd things about being a 'drug addict'. Lies. Think she is maybe delusional. She won;t apologise. But acts like it never happened. You can't trust people like this. My brother and I can't tell her or my dad anything as they phone e.g. workplaces. I had to stay in a weekend at university due to them calling the police and saying I was at risk of attack or something. It is so hard as is probably due to mental health (she was cretinoid soon after) but also it is so hard to trust, and I need to protect myself and the DC from such stuff. So as a result (and other stuff) I need to be NC really. However my brother will let his DC stay with her which makes me wonder what the repercussions will be. Guess he is putting keeping her happy, before the DC. he says that was in the past, but it stays with me. It would have been different if she had sought some therapy or tried to deal with the problems.

user87382294757 · 12/06/2019 10:56

sectioned not cretinoid! Not sure how that happened Confused

user87382294757 · 12/06/2019 10:57

I agree it really helps living far away. Getting away to university saved me. Then moving even further away.

Comps83 · 12/06/2019 11:09

There seems to be a running theme of these terrible women showing a whole different light to other people who think the sun shines out their arse
My mother has no friends or family left as she has pushed them all away but her colleagues think she’s the salt of the earth, because at work is the only time she is bloody sober!

bubblesforlife · 12/06/2019 11:16

I'm 3 months out from my wedding. I have not spoken to my mother since February. I've spent at least 50% of my adult life not speaking to her. I spent my years until my early 20's afraid of her and hating her.
She has all of the traits of a 'narcissistic mother' (google it if you haven't heard of it before).
It's a source of pain and torture for me. But as I get older and get it clearer in my head, it gets a little easier.
I'm so worried about my wedding, I don't want her to spoil it. She will go, but I will minimize any involvement with her. She's evil, yet feels entitled to me because her name is on my birth cert. She assumes she is walking me up the aisle... LOL. DD died when I was 2.
After the wedding, I'm going NC completely.

Comps83 · 12/06/2019 11:24

@bubblesforlife snap!
My wedding was last August and I feel it was partly ruined by worrying about her behaviour
She could have been worse tbh but she did, as predicted, get hammered and try to cause shit for my dad
My friends saw her at the end of the night steal bottles of wine from other ppls tables
I haven’t seen her since and went nc around October
It was a culmination of a number of things that year which tipped me over the edge
Me getting engaged made her behaviour much worse, she did things like pretend to be at work while I knew she was at home pissed out her head, pretending she was with a dying patient and hopes ‘ I was proud of myself for not believing she was at work ‘ again I know for a fact she wasn’t .
My godmother died and she made a fuss about being all upset etc. I hadn’t seen my godmother since I was about 13, due to mother getting pissed and aggressive and us never seeing godmother again
Then the wedding
Honestly the woman is a first rate pure bred c*nt!

Miniloso · 12/06/2019 11:25

My mum is a narc and now has dementia. The dementia has actually made her easier to deal with.

bubblesforlife · 12/06/2019 11:31

@Comps83 wow, that is awful. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
It sounds like going NC was certainly the best thing you could do.
She will never care about your happiness and wellbeing, so therefore you need to make sure you put you first.
This is what I've done, it helps a bit, and does get easier. No one should ever do anything or deal with someone that makes them unhappy, regardless of the relationship with that person.
It's your mums loss.
It' yours too, but more the loss is the mum you don't have, than the one you do.

Comps83 · 12/06/2019 11:34

@bubblesforlife yes it’s more feeling the loss of the mother you never had rather than any loss of that human stain
I’m going to have to tell my grandmother about my pregnancy soon, que impending shit storm. I’ve blocked my mothers number but she will find a way of getting some abuse through to me no doubt.

foreverhanging · 12/06/2019 11:52

Mine isn't too bad. It's just the wailing and guilt tripping that drive me completely insane.
When it was my graduation day, she didn't like that I wasn't leaving when she was so she screamed and threw things and cried while I barricaded my door and she screamed like a banshee 'ITS MY DAY AS WELL YOU KNOW'
On my wedding day I had just put my dress on and it ripped. She starts freaking out and asking if she looks okay and I snapped and said of course you look ok, I'm dealing with a problem here!!
I told her I was pregnant when I was 5ish weeks (mistake I won't make again). She then stomped her feet and made me cry several times by trying to force me to tell extended family and complaining that dh's grandparents knew (I had no grandparents to tell) and it wasn't FAIRRRR. I stopped talking to her for weeks and weeks because she was being so awful.
She judges everyone really harshly and bitches and I hate that.
I can't talk to her about serious problems or anything because she is always trying to one up me. It's exhausting.
My dad is also an arsehole who has given me self esteem and confidence problems for life. My nickname as a child was 'ugly'. He called me stupid regularly and would sit me down to do maths while shouting I was stupid if I got it wrong. It then came out he had an affair with someone he had taken us on holiday with and I didn't speak to him for 12 years. I have a dd now and she's nearly 2. He's seen her maybe 4 times? 2 of those were brief. He isn't bothered by me or her.

I SWEAR I will never be like this to my dd.

Weezol · 12/06/2019 11:54

Tinkobelle You're not a narcissist - if you were you'd have zero concerns about your behaviour. Narcissists, by their very nature are unable to self identify their condition.

RuffleCrow · 12/06/2019 11:58

Yes! Mine too! You wouldn't believe the things that woman has done.

It is so hard to come to terms with that your mother doesn't have your best interests at heart. Especially if you grew up with her saying that she always did.

Complete headfuck.

RuffleCrow · 12/06/2019 12:13

Anyone else here been 'forced' to resume contact through manipulation? My horribly M and abusive ex teamed up. For my dcs sake i had to offer my M joint counselling on the condition that she stops teaming up with the man who nearly killed me. Counselling with her is like pulling teeth. She is completely unwilling to accept any wrongdoing on her part . How i survived my childhood in the first place is becoming ever more of a mystery.

whyohwhyowhydididoit · 12/06/2019 12:27

@foreverhanging

Our mums seem very similar. I recently got an MSc after going to uni for the first time in my late 40s. Having attended another family graduation I had made the decision that I would not be attending my own graduation ceremony as I dislike crowds and I think the gown hire etc is a rip off. To me the achievement was getting the qualification, not walking across a stage for a split second. I didn’t think this was a big deal and so it was only mentioned in passing in my mum’s presense after a family function few weeks later. She was very annoyed and insisted I must do it as she wanted to attend and wanted a photo of me in a cap and gown. I explained why I didn’t want to, why I wouldn’t be doing it and that even if I did do it I wouldn’t have enough tickets for her, husband and DC to attend. She pushed again and I said (half laughing because it was so ridiculous) ‘ Look, I just don’t want to, OK?’ At which point she snapped and yelled at me in a quiet hotel bar ‘WELL, ITS NOT ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT, IS IT?’

This was at a station hotel just before the train home. The 3 hour train journey home was conducted in silence.

I did not attend my graduation! (although I did borrow a cap and gown from a mate so she got a photo for her mantelpiece). DS got his degree a few years later and also didn’t want to attend the ceremony so we just kept off the subject until she asked about it several weeks after the date had passed.

BlueCookieMonster · 12/06/2019 12:35

My mum was an abusive cowbag, it’s taken years to realise how much. I’m very low contact with her now, best thing in my opinion. Whenever we meet up she barely talks to me.

My whole experience has left me wondering how parents can be like that? My children are literally the most awesome things I ever had a part in creating, I adore the bones of them. If my children felt about me, the way I felt about my Mum it would kill me. I hope to God they never have cause to.

Jbonesmumma1 · 12/06/2019 12:42

Omg I can SO relate OP. My mum makes EVERYTHING about her! Everything. When I was pregnant with my DS she went into graphic detail about both her miscarriages ( both babies were boys apparently) how inappropriate like...before proceeding to tell me that women in our family 'can't carry boys'.... then telling me how my twin sister and I had a triplet (who she had never mentioned before I got pregnant) who was a boy ... who also died!! I swear she makes this stuff up just for attention. I know that sounds so fucked up, but she is TWISTED. My twin has endometriosis and can't have kids so my mum also tried to stir up the pot massively when I got accidentally pregnant. Saying how unfair it was that I had a baby by chance when my sister couldn't conceive. My sister has been nothing but lovely about my baby. My mum was just being a bitch trying to cause problems ... I could go on all day

Omzlas · 12/06/2019 12:51

Yup 🙋🏼‍♀️

I went NC approx 4 years ago and my life has never been better