Do you ever look at someone and think I really want to give them a make over ? There’s a Mum I see on the school run, probably about 40

[Lardlizard]

Lovely slim body, and I thjnk she could really improve her look as she wears these baggy jeans
Awful trainers and fleeces and her hair is like a bush
I think even if she wanted to dress casually, she would look so so much better with some jeans that fitted well, some nice smart trainers, she’s. It not making the most of herself, somedays she clearly works as she will wear a skirt with heals and a fleece

I wouldn’t want to be so rude or ever say anything but I just think could sill dress just as causally, bit look so much better

I'll be honest, I walk through town and whisper to my partner when I spot someone in see-through leggings and a thong or jeans with more cut-outs than fabric. Or a group of teenage girls all wearing the same jeans and brown dog-bed coat with badly done blue highlighter. But don't start threads about it because you'll get flamed - apparently no-one on MN ever judges anyone!

Holy:
“brown dog-bed coat with badly done blue highlighter.”

I don’t know what any of that means. Oh the joys of not caring about fashion.

I'd tell you to get tae fook.

She might think you look like shit too.

People should dress however they want.

@Langrish, one of these:
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all the rage where I live

Are you my mother, OP?

she would look so so much better with some jeans that fitted well, some nice smart trainers, she’s. It not making the most of herself.... I just think could sill dress just as causally, bit look so much better

I wonder whether she looks at you and thinks:

'That poor shallow woman seems obsessed with appearance, I wish I could give her a makeover. I'd get her to read Marcus Aurelius and Germaine Greer and teach her that there is so much more to life than trying to look good for other people.'

DFOD
People who make an "effort" for the school run are unfathomable to me.

I work with someone much the same age as me. She has a great figure, small waist, hourglass and lovely skin. She dresses in a real old ladies uniform of saggy elasticated waist trousers, bandage coloured T shirts and M&S footglove shoes. I'd love for her to go for a private shopper session, but like OP i suspect my views will be unpopular.

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No.

english.stackexchange.com/questions/46371/plural-of-fleece-when-referring-to-fleece-jacket

I would love to give someone a makeover if they asked me. I'd be in my element. I don't think the woman described in the op warrants one, she wears skirts when she's working sounds to me like she only dresses down for the school run as most people do if they're going home to clean, walk the dog etc.

I wonder whether she looks at you and thinks:

'That poor shallow woman seems obsessed with appearance, I wish I could give her a makeover. I'd get her to read Marcus Aurelius and Germaine Greer and teach her that there is so much more to life than trying to look good for other people.'

, or more like uncontrollable laughter!!

On a more serious note, haven't RTFT but haven't you considered that she may be suffering from depression?? I'm not saying she is, maybe she's simply dressing how she likes and there's nothing wrong with that, but when I am depressed it's a huge huge effort just to get in the shower and wash myself then get dressed in clean clothes. any clothes weather-suitable. If someone said anything to me I'd feel a hundred times worse.

I sometimes also find that 'over fashionable' clothes look ridiculous and too try hard.

Personally, I'm sort of with you, Lardlizard. I don't think I judge exactly: it's more that I appreciate when people are clean and tidy looking. It's like a sort of disrespect for the wider community looking scruffy, like having a messy front garden, or littering.

It's funny how you entertained that idle thought about how you'd rearrange the aesthetic of some random woman to fit some idea you have about what women should look like instead of stopping to think about why you feel that this woman needs to fit your approved aesthetic.

Well said, teyem.

I had a friend who used to wear clothes and trainers with holes in etc. She wasn't poor she was loaded.I stopped going out with her thank god.

Well, I bet she was weeping at the desertion of such a loyal friend.

Oh Lord OP -are you posting about me?!!🤣 If it makes you feel better my mother feels exactly the same...she’s constantly buying me gifts of clothes in an attempt to get me to smarten up...and is then horrified when I team the vair lovely cashmere jumper with a pair of ripped jeans (genuinely ripped as opposed to the ‘fashionable’ variety), hiking boots and oversized mans fleece as a coat. I have my hair cut twice a year and attempt to blow dry it for special occasions only. I am a huge disappointment but I know she loves me anyway. I know lots of the school gates Mums find me a total conundrum...I don’t feel the need to present an image (unless it’s work related in which case I’ll scrub up appropriately). 😁

Holy: thank you! Well you live and learn. That would be lovely when I’m out walking the dog in force 9s.
I expect they’ll crop up in the Heart Foundation when they become last season so I’ll probably pick one up then.

How do you think that woman would feel, knowing you don't think she is dressses nicely enough? Think about it

Is she a nice person. That’s all I’d care about.

It's like a sort of disrespect for the wider community looking scruffy, like having a messy front garden, or littering.

Only another person's appearance isn't making public space unpleasant to occupy, or land to be cultivated...

It's about priorities. This woman has already got up at the crack of dawn, maybe had a shower, got into some clothes, fed her kids breakfast, got them dressed, made their lunches and managed to get them to school on time.

Yes, getting them to school on time is the priority, not what she wears!!

My uniform is t-shirt/jumper and jeans, or my polyester work uniform. Most of the time, I don't make the best of myself, because I've got other shit to do. When I have the time for myself, I try a bit harder, but really, bring comfy and happy are my priorities. If anyone offered me a makeover I'd tell them to politely fuck off.

Yeah, I used to think like that when I was about 12 and watching Sweet Valley High and Clueless.

Now as an adult, no I don't want to give people make overs. Why would my opinion of how she should look override hers. It's not important.

disrespect for the wider community

Just 🤣

Yes I want to make people over to be more aesthetically pleasing on a daily basis.

I can't be arsed to pretend otherwise.
I may be a shitty, shallow person, who knows?

Fleece is a disgrace - an ecological nightmare that makes appalling clothes!

You don’t like her appearance as it does not fit with current ideas of “nice” but what you don’t realise is that she’s a trend setter and soon bush hair will be everywhere

Ecological nightmare??