Do you ever look at someone and think I really want to give them a make over ? There’s a Mum I see on the school run, probably about 40

[Lardlizard]

Lovely slim body, and I thjnk she could really improve her look as she wears these baggy jeans
Awful trainers and fleeces and her hair is like a bush
I think even if she wanted to dress casually, she would look so so much better with some jeans that fitted well, some nice smart trainers, she’s. It not making the most of herself, somedays she clearly works as she will wear a skirt with heals and a fleece

I wouldn’t want to be so rude or ever say anything but I just think could sill dress just as causally, bit look so much better

@Lardlizard
You really need to have a few moments to think about how you are coming across here.
You have no idea what anyone is going through on a daily basis .
She could deliberately be making her self look like that because of unwanted advances at home ?
She could be suffering with severe depression?
She could be hurrying home hoping no one acknowledges her as they will see the pain she's in?
She could be so wrapped up in her own grief and mourning that she doesn't give a flying fuck?
Or unlike me she could be wonderfully confident and give no hoots to what a busybody like yourself thinks?

Maybe you'd need more than a few moments to think about it.

You sound a lot like my mother (the other day she sent me a text telling me that she would ring me that evening to give me a full report on how terrible some woman trust she vaguely knows' hair was). It's been one of the main contributors to a lifetime of eating disorders and feeling shit about myself.

Let's see a picture of you on the school run so we can all be judgemental offer you some constructive advice to make the best of your appearance?

I used to think the same. When I was 14 and in school and watched clueless too many times. Luckily I've grown up a bit since then and think women should wear whatever they want.

I bet she's well comfy in her fleece so I'm a bit jealous to be honest.

As a massive fan of Queer Eye, I can see this from both sides of the argument. While of course it would totally BU to walk up to the poor woman and offer to do a makeover, that's not actually what you said. You actually said "Does anyone LOOK at other people and think they would look so much better with different styling" - of course I do, because we all naturally feel our own taste is impeccable, whether it's for a lime green leggings or a camel-coloured coat. Nothing wrong with either, but we all have our preferences. And yes, again, as someone who spent many years bed bound, a person may may well have other areas of her life that either supercede or impinge upon how much time, effort and money they might spend on their appearance. I'm in my 40's, fat, short, not particularly attractive, but I now consider it to be a part of my maintenance of self-worth to attend to my looks beyond the merely hygienic and functional - it's also about making myself feel good about myself, and trying to keep myself in good condition. Sure, I can just wash my hair in any old shampoo, blowdry, chuck on a t-shirt, jumper and jeans, but I look and feel so much better when my hair isn't dry as a bone, because I spent 20 seconds putting some serum on it, when my skin isn't rough and flaky because I spent 10 seconds putting some moisturiser on. It isn't always about being 'bang on trend'. As Tan from Queer Eye says, "Style is not fashion. Fashion is not trendy after a season. I couldn't give a sh** about fashion. Style is dressing the way that you feel confident and what is appropriate for you, your age, body type."

And I would get all those fleeces and burn them 🔥🔥they really should be illegal

I know. How dare she wear something that is comfortable, warm and practical?

She's probably walking the dog after the school run, or mucking out horses, or working in her allotment because I and all the people I know who do the school run in baggy jeans and fleeces are generally off straight afterwards to do something that makes jeans and fleeces practical attire.

My fleeces are from festivals and raves in the 90s. Practical AND stylish. I think.

The mumsnet 'kind' agenda is really overdoing itself now if this sort of crappy judgemental thinking can be labelled 'kind'.

Eh no She's managing to dress herself. Sorry but yabu. I say this as someone who loves clothes and never wears fleeces or even trainers. I am one of those heels, curls, make up types but I know it's not for everyone. It's like a hobby. As long as people are clean who cares?

No, I literally never look at someone and wonder how I would improve their look.

Its because I don't give a shit...and neither should they.

No and your suggestions for her new improved look are boring.

Cats, the op asked if anybody had ever wanted to give anyone else a makeover, that’s it.
She hasn’t slagged the school run mum off.
She has been slagged off by posters on this thread though.

Yes I do sometimes wonder about other people’s, male and female, clothing choices, but it stays in my head. I don’t speak it out loud, or start threads about it.

@TimeIhadaNameChange You can get free lessons/demo's at the counters in Debenhams/boots etc.

I don't think you deserve what you are getting on here op.

Most people in real life like to look presentable and wear what flatters them. Some people cant due to finances/don't know what to choose or how to put outfits together and I don't think its unreasonable to look at those people and think 'my god, if only I could help out!'

But I suppose it depends on what your own personal standards are/what you class as presentable, for leaving the house.

By what people post on here there must be armies of hairy, moustached, scruffy women out there, but each to their own.

When I was younger and more critical/judgy - yes I did think this occasionally - just as I sometimes saw someone (male or female) who looked really put together and thought 'wow, looks great'.

I'm one of those people - call me shallow - but I've thought most of my adult life (less like this in teens and early 20's) about how I look to myself and how to create the right impression to the outside world. I get told by friends who don't know me well - you look well put together, etc - but I also help friends/relatives - not in a direct way but e.g. with clothes/makeup gifts etc. I certainly wouldn't style them!

Nowadays though with young DD and being early stages pregnant I admit I have more than my fair share of off days - I posted here about running to school run in leggings and casual top the other day and got a few comments - it's my WFH uniform when I do that!

I did notice - a colleague of mine the other day - lovely woman, has a nice face, nice hair but it's curly/frizzy, grey etc - well we had an Away Day but with a few colleagues from offices around the country. She'd really (as well as a few others) made an effort with her hair, makeup etc that day.

Generally though, does it matter?! As long as this woman is happy in her own skin I really think it doesn't matter and honestly I wish I was more like that.

Not really, but I do frequently look at other women and wish they would do a makeover on me.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe she is happy with her look. Maybe she doesn’t care.

I’m wondering if someone who comes home from the school run and immediately fires up the internet to start a post about how badly dressed she thinks another mum is, should be making more of herself.

If I'm going to work then I look smart. If I'm running about and have been riding/mucking out then I'm usually wearing leggings/over trousers, covered in mud and hair and with crazy hair as it's had a riding hat on

😂😂 omg you are going to get ruined on here,why not just move it to AIBU and have done with it

I doubt she cares what you think OP. You sound very nasty.

OP you are the person the school run threads are about!

I love a fleece. Wish I could wear it to work. Warm and comfy.

we all naturally feel our own taste is impeccable

I wouldn't think this for a second! Wish I had good taste in clothes but I don't, hence I tend to stick to very similar things all the time, black/white/grey, skinny jeans and some kind of vest top (or feeding top at the moment!).

I wish I had good taste/some kind of style and I'd love someone with good taste to give me a makeover! However, I don't think there's anything wrong with going round dressed without 'style' or just for utility - some people either can't or don't want to dress better and it's I think a nasty value statement to say it's not 'making the most of yourself'. Who you are is what you choose to be about, for some people that's nothing to do with their external appearance.