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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

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Sarahjconnor · 14/02/2019 08:37

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mirialis · 14/02/2019 08:39

The guy who interviewed her said it best. She is BOTH the 15 year old girl who was groomed and lured to Syria AND the now 19 year old following 4 years of indoctrination as an ISIS bride who would effectively need "deprogramming" were she allowed to return. He said she was also clearly in shock when he met her so you have to take that into consideration when judging her attitude and response.

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lalalonglegs · 14/02/2019 08:40

Does anyone think the "no regrets" line might be typical, teenage bravado? I believe she was groomed, she has been through horrific experiences (including losing two of her children to malnutrition) and, as a British citizen, she does have the right to return. How that could be accommodated - she would be a focus for radical Islamists and the far right - is anyone's guess. I think the only way it could be done would be for her to take on a new identity but she and her circumstances are so recognisable that I'm not sure it would be sustainable.

LikeDolphinsCanSwim · 14/02/2019 08:40

If she comes back she will be a lifelong drain on security resources and the public purse. And in return for what? She’s never going to make a useful contribution to society.

I’ll be furious if she comes back.

Topseyt · 14/02/2019 08:40

I agree with Tulip there.

The whole thing is horrific though.

I don't think we actually really know what she now thinks, or ever will. If she is still living under the "care" of ISIS she can hardly publicly condemn them on TV.

At the same time though, she could be extremely dangerous if she does come back. We simply cannot know.

SileneOliveira · 14/02/2019 08:42

No thanks. They can keep her. She made her choice and doesn't regret it.

It would be a totally different kettle of fish if she was repentant and acknowledged that she'd been stupid. But she's not - saw a clip of the interview on telly where she is very nonchalant about seeing decapitated heads in bins.

She's a security risk.

TheFairyCaravan · 14/02/2019 08:46

I don't want her back and I think the responses on this thread would be very different if this was a male.

We're all safer with her not here.

Greendaffy · 14/02/2019 08:47

Dyrne

I’m not entirely sure what we could charge her with - I think it’s a crime to travel to fight with isis, but did they include anything about girls going over to marry? I think they’ve charged people for helping it happen, but not sure about the girls themselves?

Treason? Crime(s) against the state.

I don't think you can still hang for treason otherwise i'd say let her back in and hang the bitch!

Dimsumlosesum · 14/02/2019 08:47

She got two of her children killed. She's an absolute evil monster.

oldmum22 · 14/02/2019 08:47

No doubt a massive amount of money and resources were used in a bid to locate her ,when she was first reported as a missing person. Now,she wants to have her baby in the UK, avail of the NHS and get British citizenship for her child. My understanding is, she has actively gone against British rules, joined a terrorist organisation ,become a hardened member and now wants to return to her birthplace to give birth ……...now let me think what does she have to offer our community ????

Greenglassteacup · 14/02/2019 08:49

I’d prefer her to stay the fuck away from the UK

Connieston · 14/02/2019 08:50

I found her testimony chilling too. Perhaps she does deserve compassion and her child certainly deserves safety - I don't wish harm on anyone but I can't help thinking this woman doesn't feel the same way.

Howdoidothis4eva · 14/02/2019 08:50

I don't think she should be allowed back in; she made her bed, now she needs to lie in it.

She's not even repentant, why should she be allowed to come here with such openly hostile ideas?
I really don't think it would be in the public's best interest to let her come back. She'll probably just try to poison other people's minds, and brainwash them that ISIS are in the right.

BHStowel · 14/02/2019 08:51

She got herself there, she can get herself back. In the unlikely event that happens we can deal with it then.

Greensleeves · 14/02/2019 08:52

I think Western countries need to take responsibility for their home-grown extremists and not leave them for others to deal with, so I think if she has British citizenship she has to be allowed to come back. I think she should be arrested on arrival and criminal charges brought - there are offences under the Terrorism Act she can be charged with based on what we know of her activities.

Given the authorities' pitiful record on even tracking returning jihadis, never mind charging them, I wouldn't hold my breath, though.

MrsJane · 14/02/2019 08:53

We can't let these girls back. It's too dangerous. She sounds desensitised to violence and that scares me.

She could encourage others to do the same, plan an attack, bring up her child to think the same and that radicalised child will be in our schools.

Plus it acts as a deterrent. Don't join IS because if you do, you can't come back.

makingmiracles · 14/02/2019 08:53

No, she shouldn’t be allowed back.

hackmum · 14/02/2019 08:54

I think she should be allowed back. She may have useful information that could be revealed under questioning. She is still young enough to be rehabilitated. As far as her baby goes, better that it's brought up in Britain where it might be cared for properly and have the benefit of good influences rather than the alternative.

MidniteScribbler · 14/02/2019 08:54

Offer to take the child, adopt it out, leave her to her chosen life.

MsMustDoBetter · 14/02/2019 08:56

She has made her bed and now she must lie in it.

She can't cherry pick, there are hundreds of women trapped there far more deserving but without a UK link.

I also read that she had her UK citizenship taken off her.

WorryingLadyBits · 14/02/2019 08:56

The article is scary to read, she is hardened and a threat to western society.
Take the baby and bring it back to her family here...leave her there to deal with the consequences of her actions- an example must be set.

ineedaknittedhat · 14/02/2019 08:58

She's a terrorist and clearly not capable of being in charge of her own mind. In no way should she be permitted to return. To even consider it just goes to show how weak and pathetic this country is.

Howdoidothis4eva · 14/02/2019 08:59

If they were stupid enough to let her return, she'd be a constant, expensive drain on taxpayers' money as she'd need to be monitored, probably for the rest of her life. You could never trust her motives.

I don't believe it's worth the risk; what if they let her back and she committed a terrorist attack, either alone or with others she's recruited (or was put in contact with)?

Leave her where she is, I have no sympathy for her, and think she's potentially too dangerous to allow back here, and I don't see why we should bear the financial implications of this.

ginandtonicformeplease · 14/02/2019 09:01

She's not a dual citizen, so you can't strip her of her citizenship. Saying leave her there is all very well, but why should countries like Syria in a complete mess have to take her rather than this one sort something out? I don't know if there's anything that she can be charged with, but once here she can be monitored. As for the baby, there may be someone in either her family or his - I think the paper said he was Dutch - who would be willing to bring it up and give it a chance at a normal, peaceful life.

As for PP's suggestion to send her to Pakistan or Somalia - WTF? What on earth have those countries got to do with this mess?