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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

999 replies

themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

OP posts:
LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/02/2019 12:46

She has said that she is scared that she won’t see her husband alive again. He is in another camp.

PrismGuile · 16/02/2019 12:48

She can come back... and go to prison for a decade for terror offences and her child taken from her. Those are my requirements.

bigknickersbigknockers · 16/02/2019 12:49

No way should she be let back in. She turned her back on this country and married an IS fighter. She should stay where she is, she made her bed and all that. Also If she did come back here she would be a target and rightly so.

PrismGuile · 16/02/2019 13:02

Her tone is the tone of a high school bully being interviewed by the headmaster. She doesn't give a shit, she sounds psychopathic... she didn't come back as a child, she is an adult and a mother and the beheaded heads of captives in bins 'didn't faze' her.

She doesn't believe in the caliphate because they also killed Muslims... so she wants a true uncorrupted Islamic state. She still believes that we should be murdered.

meditrina · 16/02/2019 13:16

"Her tone is the tone of a high school bully being interviewed by the headmaster"

We don't know how much the interview has been edited.

Also, she is speaking from a place where she is surrounded by Daesh families, and must know her words will be broadcast and seen by the fighters. If she doesn't get out, she may end up back with them, and presumably wants to remain alive if that hapoens, so cannot repudiipublicly at this stage. But being concerned for her DC's welfare is acceptable even to hardliners who are listening.

Though of course we have no idea if she would ever wish to repudiate. We have very little to go on - her actions are damning (and she was certainly old enough to know what she was doing) and her words don't help her case.

I don't think anyone will be going to get her -or anyone else - out of those camps. If she gets out herself, to a place where Britain can provide consular services then she can avail herself of those. And then the risk level she poses can be assessed, and prosecution may happen. I don't see how anyone can trust her word thus far.

Snowmaggedon · 16/02/2019 13:19

We can't trust her words and we simply don't know what crimes she has committed either.
Nazi's were surely captured after war.. prison camp guards Etc.. and tried for their atrocities...we don't know what she's done

Snowmaggedon · 16/02/2019 13:20

Prism but it would need too be solitary confinement... her views and background is too dangerous...

Justanotherlurker · 16/02/2019 13:31

I usually steer well clear of vox, but that was an interesting article @DGRossetti

Interesting to see a couple of comments after she posted that article some are still citing unconfirmed aspects about the refugee camp

DGRossetti · 16/02/2019 13:41

I usually steer well clear of vox, but that was an interesting article

Just saw a few unmentioned posts - in particular about the non-UK grandparents of the poor baby.

There's a lot of irony in this thread being full of people very upset with "extreme beliefs" while at the same time being full of posts espousing extreme beliefs ... summary execution ? Internment ? Isolation for life ?

MissKittyBeaudelais · 16/02/2019 14:19

She will come back. She will have a new identity and protection. She will never need to work 3 jobs on a zero contract and stand in line in a food bank queue. She’s pretty much made for life. That’s my opinion.

SomethingOnce · 16/02/2019 14:20

We have transformed as a community so please stop judging the Muslim community by one event that happened in the 80s, that is unfair.

Oh, come on. Are you seriously trying to suggest, for example, that the bedding in of some extreme Islamic ideology simply didn’t happen in the 90s/00s? And that it isn’t part (just part, let me be very clear) of the picture people have formed?

I was hazily aware of this development in the late 90s; I had hints of it from someone I knew then, who was fairly well placed to know.

FWIW, I thought it was exaggeration, and didn’t give it much thought until 7/7, because there were loads of Muslims in my multi-everything community growing up, who were just like everyone else.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/02/2019 14:22

If she comes back even with a new identity she will be sought out by those wanting to harm her because she went and those wanting to either harm her because she left or to poison her mind again to do god knows what. She was weak as a teenager and lived with it all these years.

StealthPolarBear · 16/02/2019 14:25

How would a new identity work? Her face has been all over the media.

StealthPolarBear · 16/02/2019 14:27

I know they're all a few years old but I've seen a few people I wen tto school with 20 years ago recently and they've barely changed. I don't think a new hairdo would help with that.

StealthPolarBear · 16/02/2019 14:29

They=the photos

UtterlyDesperate · 16/02/2019 14:36

Anyone seen the Telegraph article today about another group of women wanting to come back to the UK? Apparently, they thought they were only going on holiday but went to Syria Hmm

UtterlyDesperate · 16/02/2019 14:37

'We were going on holiday but ended up in Syria'- British family detained for Isil links pleads for return to Britain

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/15/family-manchester-detained-syria-links-isil-say-miss-freedom/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_androidshare_AsCRzs7TNl8r

UtterlyDesperate · 16/02/2019 14:39

Sorry - it's premium, but iirc you can read a certain number of articles a week for free registration.

Honestly, after reading that, you'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh Grin
Those women may well be dual nationals, though.

AnnabelleLecter · 16/02/2019 14:41

I think her child should be allowed back here and be adopted by a nice muslim family so that s/he still has a chance for a good life. Which imo s/he won't have being bought up by her. It's the child that needs a new identity and protection from her.
She should not be allowed back in and rot in her choices.

MissKittyBeaudelais · 16/02/2019 14:44

@Annabel but....didn’t the three girls COME from “nice” Muslim families. They were apparently all good girls, clever and high achievers from the Bethnell Academy school.

I could be confused about this but seem to remember them being depicted as such, at the time of their travelling out to Turkey.

AnnabelleLecter · 16/02/2019 15:04

Possibly but it doesn't mean that their parents were responsible. At that age they often go against their parents wishes and do what the fuck they want. I just think that she shouldn't be trusted with bringing up a child. We know she is a terrorist.

MissKittyBeaudelais · 16/02/2019 15:17

I just think there’s no deterrent anymore. When young men from the UK went to join ISIS, the shock provoked our Govt. to promise that they would not be allowed to return. Now, there will be a million reasons (excuses) for going back on that.

Same as crime levels. Three elderly gentle men savagely beaten to death last week. We’re (rightly) shocked but violence and the non-consequence of it, are commonplace these days, in the UK.

UtterlyDesperate · 16/02/2019 15:21

400 ISIS fighters have already returned to the UK.

There have been 40 prosecutions iirc

Imissgmichael · 16/02/2019 15:22

You’re right MissKitty. I read an article a few days ago which stated that the America authorities are frustrated about how soft European countries are on returning terrorists. I have to say I agree.

Moussemoose · 16/02/2019 15:51

We need to take some tips from the Americans and have a camp not on our own soil where we can detain and torture people without due process!

We can also auction off all our hard won principles at the same time.