British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

[themoomoo]

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

Canada are going through the same thing

www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-15-2019-1.5019984/canadian-women-who-went-to-join-isis-not-willing-to-express-regret-reporter-1.5019999

Nope I'm sorry she should not be allowed back in the UK no sympathy for her at all .

Ooops - wrong thread. I have reported and apologise if it's upset anyone

We often talk about CFs on mumsnet but I think she is one as is her df

Imagine if this was Nazi's from concentration camp... would they be allowed too flit freely everywhere.. essential ly the caliphate was concentration camp, commit ing genocide, sex slavery... murderer.. torture and any kind of barbarism....

The thing is, she is a foreigner in a country that isnt hers.
She is costing a lot of money to another country running the camps, feeding them etc... and it happens that it’s also a country that doesn’t any spare money (if the U.K. is saying looking after her would be too costly, imagine how it feels to Syria!)

She is a British citizen, she is british responsibility. It’s not up to another country to shoulder the cost of her upkeep just because ‘we don’t want her here anymore’.

Other countries like France have repatriated their citizens and dealt with the fact they are ISIS brides (with whatever risk associated with it).
The U.K. should do the same imo.
At te very least, because it’s completely unfair to the ‘host country’. After all,they certainly can send any foreigner back home in charter flights if they want to. The U.K. certainly doesnt have a problem doing so.

We know she is a terrorist.
How do we know that? Do we proof that she prepared a bomb, that she killed someone, that she participated in any violent actions?

Innocent until proven guilty is the basis of our society. THANKSFULLY It applies to everyone.

She's a member of a terrorist organisation

Completely agree with your previous post

We need to take some tips from the Americans and have a camp not on our own soil where we can detain and torture people without due process!
Because the US is well known for their respect of human rights....

If you want to be just as bad as them (eg by using torture), then you just put yourself at the same level than them.
Take any word you have described ISIS fighters and you can apply them to yourself too. You will be just as good and therefore just as bad/horrible/non human as ISIS is.

True Queenie

You can be jailed for being a member of a banner organisation (like those arses who were jailed for being members of a banned white suprematist movement, posed in kkk outfits and named their baby after hitler). I’m pretty sure ISIS is a banned organisation and she hasn’t denied being a member (in fact she seems a bit glum that she felt she had to leave).

I think it's fairly clear that MousseMouse was not actually advocating that, Queenie, you need to read her next sentence: We can also auction off all our hard won principles at the same time.

Queenie sure you would be saying this if one of your children were killed in bombings in Manchester...

She wavered all of her human rights once she went to joking isis... just to confirm I think this for anyone who kills, rapes, tortures, brainwashed etc etc people!

Joining*

cinderella yes I would.

The issue isn’t HER human rights. It’s about US staying human and treating others decently.
The moment we stop treating others decently, then we are as bad as the people we condemn for being barbaric.

The moment we say it’s ok not to follow the rule of law (which says that, as a British citizen, she CAN go back to the UK, or even been sent back by charter flight to the U.K. whether we like it or not), then we open the doors to any excess where not following the law is ok .... because someone has decided it was what more ethical/moral/fair.
As it happens, I believe that following the law and for everyone to be equal in front of the law to be the basis of our democracy. I’d hate living in a country that isn’t a democracy and isn’t treating everyone as equal (which btw also means punishing people for the crimes they have committed, in a fair way. Not for her to come back to the UK and live her life as if nothing has happened)

Thank goodness, chat threads are not arbitrators of the law.

cindersrella are you saying that you think anyone who kills, rapes, tortures, brainwashed etc etc people! should be send away in another country? Leaving that country to deal with them
Do you mean that those people shouod be made stateless, which is illegal, and therefore are you advocating that the U.K. is becoming one of those countries who refuses to follow the rule of law?

She wavered all of her human rights

You can't waive your human rights you have them because you are human.

If we deny her human rights then we are lacking in humanity.

@MadCatEnthusiast

Thank goodness, chat threads are not arbitrators of the law

Alleluia to that statement.

i wish there was more publicity for the poor woman stuck in a foreign prison, away from her small child and husband (and she was on hunger strike) than this woman

How long will it be before she is housed by the council? I'm betting not long.