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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

999 replies

themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

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whitehorsesdonotlie · 14/02/2019 08:10

She wants to come back for free NHS treatment. She can bloody stay where she is; she made her decision. Why should we fund her now? She's an enemy of the state - and she will try to radicalise other people in the UK. She's a terrorist threat.

MarthasGinYard · 14/02/2019 08:12

She wants the free treatments and benefits of NHS

Fuck that

Laughable if this silly country allows that scum back in

53rdWay · 14/02/2019 08:13

Age of criminal responsibility in England is 10

Minors are charged and tried as minors, though, not as adults, so I would not expect her to face exactly the same process as someone who went out there aged 25. Plus the three of them were IIRC offered immunity from charges when they first went over, although that would be dependent on any crimes committed since.

Not sure how the hell she can lose two babies and at at least one of her friends and see the brutality of IS firsthand and still be all casually “oh, no regrets”. FFS woman.

meditrina · 14/02/2019 08:13

"Anyone else coming back after living abroad wouldn't get free NHS treatment."

You do for childbirth (classed as an emergency procedure). And entitlement to NHS treatment is based on ordinary residence which doesn't not necessarily have a minimum time in-country requirement if you are British and state you have returned permanently

Also the child will be British, in Britain and with no expectation of leaving the country and so will qualify for NHS from birth

SomethingOnce · 14/02/2019 08:14

Not keen.

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 08:14

The interview will have been edited, we might have been drawing all sorts of wrong conclusions

what sort of wrong conclusions are you suggesting?
That she's actually a poor innocent who deeply regrets having been forced to go over and now she's deeply repentant?
Not how I'm hearing the interview

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SurfClub · 14/02/2019 08:15

From what I read in the BBC article in the last few months she has buried two of her children, one at 20 or so months of age and one at 8 months. I would wonder how much of her brain is tuned to rational thought at the moment, 9 months pregnant with her third child at the age of 19. She must also be scared of retribution if she speaks out against her 'hosts'.

^^ That's the compassionate side of me. The other half of me is 'meh, you made your choice and it wasn't very sensible was it young lady?'.

londonrach · 14/02/2019 08:18

Id be surprised if they let her back. It be dangerous to let her back. To her (would she be safe after whats shes done) and to other girls she tried to recruit. If shes 9 months pregnant there is no way she can fly anyway. Would her uk passport be valid in march anyway

QueenieInFrance · 14/02/2019 08:18

In any other cases, a 15yo married and having a child, it would be considered rape. A 15yo wouod also be considered unable to consent and treated as a child.
Assuming she hasn’t murdered anyone etc... I wouod actually see the situation as someone who have been groomed and abused.

However and very unfortunately, the grooming also me she also now thinks that ISIS views are ok (as per her expressed views) and it’s ‘normal’ (Amazing how seeing horrible things again and again can just make them look normal and acceptable rather than horrible)
I suspect she would be quite dangerous too.

So a victim but one that is also very dangerous.

MarthasGinYard · 14/02/2019 08:19

It would drain resources and cost a fortune to keep her safe.

Money better spent elsewhere.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 14/02/2019 08:21

Even if she felt regrets, or had the wit to realise she should pretend to, she couldn’t, as it would be extremely dangerous for her to become a public face of rebuke to ISIS in that camp. And probably after she came home too.

pepperpot99 · 14/02/2019 08:21

I think she will be a danger to British people and society. She is a terrorist and has not, apparently , shown any remorse or regret. she has not renounced the IS philosophy.

She is coming back to exploit our NHS. If she achieves this, the trade off must be that the baby is taken away and adopted out with no chance of her ever having contact with him/her. No baby would want a terrorist as a mother, would they?

I listened to the interview on the radio just now and frankly, she sounds like she enjoyed herself. Hmm.

Have the baby, adopt it out immediately and put her under 24/7 spook watch for life.

MarthasGinYard · 14/02/2019 08:23

'put her under 24/7 spook watch for life.'

At a cost of millions to us

Fuck that

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 14/02/2019 08:23

The baby should absolutely be brought home if she wishes it though, it’s a British citizen and it’s horrific to think she’s watched two infants die of malnutrition already.

The real mindfycj with this is that there’s no punishment the justice system could mete out for her decisions(/crimes, if she’s found to have committed them) that would be worse than what’s she’s already suffered. But she can’t admit that.

DaffydownClock · 14/02/2019 08:24

No way should she be allowed back here; I bet if it was a male terrorist there would be a different response. She's using her pregnancy as an excuse to come here. Disgusting creature.

Gwenhwyfar · 14/02/2019 08:24

"Anyone else coming back after living abroad wouldn't get free NHS treatment."

You just have to be 'ordinarily resident' to get NHS treatment.
In practice, you can even get it while living abroad as we don't have a proper ID card system here - you'd just go with your parents' address to your old GP, they'd be unlikely to know where you actually live.

QueenieInFrance · 14/02/2019 08:26

Not sure how the hell she can lose two babies and at at least one of her friends and see the brutality of IS firsthand and still be all casually “oh, no regrets”.

That’s because those people are basically brained washed into thinking it’s ok.
When you are forced to see people been behaved, you live in fear if doing or saying the wrong thing and forced to do stuff that no child (and I wouod consider her a child at 15yo) shouod ever do, it does thing to your mind.
There has been many reports on the effect those people have on children (and I’m taking about children much younger than her, 10~12yo who, you wouod hope, can still be influenced again in their view of the world). Even when they are saved and brought back to ‘civilisation’, the grooming and brainwashing has been such that they seem to never be able to really go back to a normal way of thinking. 😢😢😢

Brownbootscoldheart · 14/02/2019 08:28

Leave her there. She made her bed, let her lay in it.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 14/02/2019 08:28

I’m a bot torn over this one. She was youngish when she left and she’s been through awful trauma and recently lost two babies. Maybe there is hope for rehabilitation? On the other hand I find her actions so abhorrent and her attitude beyond offensive. She sounds bloody dangerous.

I’m undecided on what would be the right thing.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 14/02/2019 08:30

*bit torn, not bot torn!

Parky04 · 14/02/2019 08:30

No doubt the government will welcome her back with open arms, provide her with a 3 bed semi detached and some lovely benefits.

pepperpot99 · 14/02/2019 08:31

MarthasGinYard agreed these things are expensive - but what else would you recommend?

No doubt her entire family are already on permanent spook watch. They might not even want her to return.

Personally I think she should stay in Raqqa or wherever she is and just accept what the drones will eventually bring her way, but if she DOES return then she will have to be monitored until the day she dies. And yes, that will cost the tax payer.

pepperpot99 · 14/02/2019 08:32

Now now, Parky04 you're beginning to sound a lot like Mr Yaxley-Lennon Hmm.

MarthasGinYard · 14/02/2019 08:32

'MarthasGinYard agreed these things are expensive - but what else would you recommend?'

Leaving her be

She's an adult

53rdWay · 14/02/2019 08:35

yes, I feel pretty sorry for her family. “Good news is your daughter’s still alive - bad news is the grandchildren you never met died as babies, and your daughter is still fine with her decision to go and with what IS were trying to achieve.”

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