Men on a post natal ward

[RogueV]

The guy in the next bay is pissing me right off.
He just asked the midwife for a bed. Dick.

Why are they allowed to stay anyway? Shouldn’t they be going home?

Sorry just ranting.

Why are people so bothered by opposite sex patients? Apart from abuse victims I don't see why anyone would care.

We could switch to the American system and pay several thousand dollars to give birth in hospital?? If you object strongly to the current system that's always an option??

Or what about any of the other healthcare systems around the world. It's not just the NHS or America you know, pp have mentioned excellent care in Germany for example.

Yes, on other wards rounds generally take place outside visiting hours, so these conflicts are less likely to arise.

Maybe - my parents have both been in recently and visiting was 9 - 9 so all rounds during visiting plus admission paper work completed at the bedside so lots of personal questions asked and then of course nurses come round to do obs, check wounds, ask about bladder and bowels - all in the earshot of visitors.

V surprised to hear of non-maternity hospitals with 9-9 visiting. Was this in the UK?

Why are people so bothered by opposite sex patients? Apart from abuse victims I don't see why anyone would care.

Where to start with this...

Again, not a good trend, all patients should be able to have some dignity

women should not be treated differently to other patients because no one can be bothered to provide suitable care for post natal women.

On what other ward are patients also expected to fully take care of another human being? No other patient has to feed, bathe or change another person.

wheetabix when I was in hospital the staff helped the patients who needed help. Thats how it used to work in hospitals.

Why are people so bothered by opposite sex patients? Apart from abuse victims I don't see why anyone would care.

Do you know how many women are actually raped or sexually abused in their lifetime? You don't have to see why anyone would care, you just need to listen when they tell you that they do.

What about those of us who don't want strangers to help us? I don't want to be looked after by someone I don't know.

V surprised to hear of non-maternity hospitals with 9-9 visiting. Was this in the UK?

Yes. Medical admissions unit of our local hospital. Surgical ward visiting is 10 - 8

Do you know how many women are actually raped or sexually abused in their lifetime? You don't have to see why anyone would care, you just need to listen when they tell you that they do.
1 in 5 I believe. Including me.

I discharged myself so DH could look after us at home. They wanted to give me the blood transfusion so I "could look after the baby". Again I had to point out it wouldn't be me my DH would be doing it because of everything else besides the blood count!

It's certainly been an imperfect system but drafting in partners has then been a poor answer imho.

(Just googling and the Dutch have a system of someone helping in your home after the birth.)

Surely most women have been treated inappropriately or intimidated by a man in their lives even if they haven't been raped.

Yes, post natal women are in a different situation to other patients. Which is why they need proper care, to enable them to look after their babies or to do some of that for them if they are unable to. They shouldn't be abandoned to whatever care their partner/family can provide, and be subject to visitors 24/7 as a result, whether that's their choice or not.

When I was in there had not long been a baby abducted by a woman pretending to be a health visitor. There was a huge campaign telling mothers not to leave their babies unattended at all and if a HCP wanted to take the baby for any reason that a parent should accompany them. How do you do that on your own?

If you don't want strangers helping you maybe have a home birth with all your relatives and friends?

Unfortunately all the staff in a hospital will be strangers when you get there. you may be lucky enough to have met a midwife previously.

Those strangers are trained to help you, thank goodness.

Why are people bothered by trained professionals helping them?

What about those of us who don't want strangers to help us? I don't want to be looked after by someone I don't know.

But that's completely impossible and unreasonable. Are you saying that your partner should have taken your blood pressure? Checking your stitches? A medical professional would always have to be involved if you are in hospital.

Surely most women have been treated inappropriately or intimidated by a man in their lives even if they haven't been raped

Doesn't mean you can treat all men as potential criminals.

Sorry I couldn't resist

This thread is getting very strange. Nearly full though.

Must get on.

I'm not getting paid for this!

why are people so bothered by opposite sex patients? Apart from abuse victims I don't see why anyone would care
Both men and women tend to prefer single sex wards. It's to do with privacy and dignity. The same as toilets, changing rooms, etc. The fact that you don't understand why is ... strange.

But that's completely impossible and unreasonable. Are you saying that your partner should have taken your blood pressure? Checking your stitches? A medical professional would always have to be involved if you are in hospital

The blood pressure machine is easy to operate, we have one at home so technically I could do that but that's not what I was getting at.

There are certain parts of care that need medical professionals. But stuff like helping me shower or getting me a drink, or changing the bed, doesn't need a nurse