Is there anybody here who voted 'leave' who now regrets it?

[Applepudding2018]

Just wondering.

I'm generally not a very political person but seeing the total mess which seems to have been created by the government following through on the vote to leave the EU.

I think that the sane thing is to say 'OK we made a mistake, please can we stay in the EU.

I guess they won't because it's following through on the vote.

I know a lot of people are saying there should be a second vote, but I think these are people who voted to remain in the first place.

I was wondering if there would be any backing for a second referendum (or simply a let's forget brexit) from anyone who originally voted to leave. Maybe it's not delivering as you expected? Do you think that the pro-brexit politicians misrepresented things to you and you'd vote differently if you had a second chance?

(PS name change if you're embarrassed !)

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-senior-german-mep-eu-negotiators-punish-britain-hans-olaf-henkel-theresa-may-michel-a7848221.html

Maybe if I go out in tbe rain, I won't need an umbrella.

news.sky.com/story/leaked-eu-document-shows-brexit-punishment-plan-11239487

I voted leave. Don’t regret it all. Why is being worried about a European army a ridiculous concern? It’s being openly promoted by many European leaders.

This is a document from yonks ago.

This is a document from yonks ago
which shows clear plans to "punish" us.
i didn't actually realise they'd done this till thingy was going on about my use of the word punish and calling me thick.
There you go, I'm a little more educated now

I wholeheartedly agree with the statement of that you accept a vote from the people when it’s given.

But you were all lied to (I’m Irish) so I am of the opinion that you weren’t making an informed decision. If a second referendum was called you would be voting on a decision with a better grasp of the consequences of that vote.

Looking in it strikes me that you need a flow of information that you trust and is accurate.

Perhaps no one really knew the consequences of exactly how complicated it would be for Brexit to happen. So maybe it was impossible to present that information to the public. Or maybe your media manipulated public opinion.

Now that more information and consequences are known and can be predicted it may be time for an informed vote to take place.

I feel the British Politicians underestimated the power of the EU remaining countries staying together. I hear British Politicians refer to how they don’t wish their union broken. Well, neither do the EU - and they’re bigger and more powerful than Britain and so are calling the shots.

From a smaller countries experience of feeling powerless in the face of more powerful neighboring country - welcome to the other side of the fence. That’s Irish history with Britain only now we’re on the more powerful side. The change is refreshing 😀

Look @themoomoo , it's clear you are happy with your decision and don't like being called thick for making it. Right back at you.
Unlike you, it would seem, I am soooooooooo wanting to be wrong and I would be sooooooooo happy for you to be right.

bellini well, not that long till we find out now so we'll have to just wait and see.

Sorry I should have included @gendercritter in my reply. Why is being concerned about a European army not a valid reason to have voted leave?

Thingy here (what a charmer) I don't really feel the need to educate myself any further tbh. DC and GO were pretty foul bedfellows, but your lot were absolute shysters and miscreants peddling a false campaign based on racism and lies who ran away when they 'won'. So yeah, I think you have to be pretty thick to fall for the shite they spouted.

Have you seen the clip of Boris, no? Take a look

Perhaps when the economy tanks and all the project fear scaremongering comes to bear you will be able to look the majority of people who didn't vote for this shitshow in the eye and explain to them why their homes are being repossessed and food prices are through the roof. That's if they have any jobs left.

But then again 'maybe' it'll all be fine. Let's hope hey?

Absolutely no regrets. Just want it to be done.

@themoomoo

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how the lead up to brexit has impacted their own personal lives. Many are saying it's already screwed the country but no one seems to have been affected personally.

I'm loosing my job in March because of Brexit. I admit I haven't lost it yet, and there is a chance I might survive the cut but most of my dept are going, so, ok, you could argue that I'm not suffering yet, apart from the stress.

Also, I meet exporters all the time through my job, yet to meet one that is positive about Brexit and it IS already making things difficult for them because of the huge reduction in orders after March 29th. For a bit of balance, they also tell me that they are experiencing a Brexit bonus at the moment with increased orders as customers overseas have brought forward orders they would have made post Brexit and ordered extra, all to be produced and delivered before 29th March, after that date orders fall off a cliff.

kenn so you haven't actually lost your job? I am yet to hear of a personal financial or otherwise impact that has actually happened
The orders for immediately after brexit may well be down as people have been told there will be no way of importing/ transporting goods.
Once that is shown to be false, I'm sure the orders will perk up again.
Can I ask what your job is and how come brexit may impact personnel levels/

kenn so you haven't actually lost your job?

No, not yet, so you could say (and seem to be implying) that I'm complaining about nothing in that case. Cuts will definitely come in March though, we were told this last September (2017) it was confirmed this September although who is for the chop (it will be most of my department of about 30 people) is yet to be decided. I work in H&S very niche role so don't want to say as too outing, not highly paid. This is a direct result of Brexit and nothing else, no other factors in play.

As I said, not one exporter who has ever raised Brexit is positive about it, not one. Actually, I remember I did visit one company just after the vote, while I was waiting in reception the receptionist was very happy Leave winning. She said that they could now export all over the world instead of just to the EU. I pointed out the massive great picture on the wall behind her of the MD standing in front of this huge turbine thing that they had just delivered to China. 'Oooh yeah' she said with a little laugh. Fucking idiot. But that's the only positive comment, and it came from a fool.

Spoiler alert @themoomoo , Brexit hasn't happened. Yet.

kenn how is it a direct result of leaving the EU? genuinely curious. I'm sure you can say without outing yourself

Because we receive funding from the EU, this is not being replaced by local or national gov.

Spoiler alert @themoomoo , Brexit hasn't happened. Yet
I know .
Is there a reason you're telling me that?

ken that will indeed be directly affected. Hope it goes OK for you

I'm telling you because you appear to have fallen into the Faridge Project Fear trap. You believe that Remainers said bad things would happen immediately after the vote. You believe that because this didn't happen (only Leavers said this) , then any suggestion that No Deal is seriously bad for the country is more "Project Fear".

no, bellini I'm referring to the many posters on this vote that say brexit has already been a disaster economically and personally for them.
That is why I ask the question of has anything bad actually happened to anyone personally as a direct result of the lead up to brexit.
And the answer has been a deafening silence

I don't read that document as 'punishment'. Not that I have seen original, but rather only the news media summary.
But it sounded like "If during transition period, they don't follow our rules or an arbitration procedure then these are the steps we could take in response."

Ok, my brother. Won't give you details because it's outing but he's had to muster up EU citizenship (we have an Irish Mum) to keep his business alive.

bellini I'm sure it won't be outing. What business is it that means eu citizenship ensures its survival but being British means it will fail?