Is there anybody here who voted 'leave' who now regrets it?

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Just wondering.

I'm generally not a very political person but seeing the total mess which seems to have been created by the government following through on the vote to leave the EU.

I think that the sane thing is to say 'OK we made a mistake, please can we stay in the EU.

I guess they won't because it's following through on the vote.

I know a lot of people are saying there should be a second vote, but I think these are people who voted to remain in the first place.

I was wondering if there would be any backing for a second referendum (or simply a let's forget brexit) from anyone who originally voted to leave. Maybe it's not delivering as you expected? Do you think that the pro-brexit politicians misrepresented things to you and you'd vote differently if you had a second chance?

(PS name change if you're embarrassed !)

Yep weetabix. People who voted to leave the EU were just called cunts on another thread about Jeremy Corbin.

I'm a Remainer & I haven't been belligerant or angry. Maybe we can draw a truce on agreeing that angry belligerance isn't helpful.

missesbiggens not "stupid cunts"? they're slacking

I know a number of people who voted Leave, none of whom have expressed any regrets. Most if not all are not those who will suffer in poverty as more will after we leave.

Hooray, we have Y2K bollocks from @Weetabixandshreddies . I win another bingo!
Dear @Weetabixandshreddies , the reason Y2K didn't caused you any problems was because there was lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of planning behind the scenes. Other people did the hard work so you didn't have to.

No one addressing the point about examples of people being negatively affected, now, by Brexit?

Don't ask the question if you are going to ignore the response.

People are, at this moment, being negatively effected by Brexit. It will get worse once Brexit happens. The poor and the dispossessed will be the most badly effected.

Some posters are very distressed about the misery and poverty that will result. But, you just worry about name calling. That's what really matters.

@bellinisurge I called Brexit bingo first.

I win you lose stop complaining.

What I find the funniest is I live off of the M20.... Kent is a Tory stronghold and very much "leave" territory however the moaning from people about what will happen in Folkestone and Dover when we leave and what chaos the M20 and surrounding A roads will be. It's like they thought it would be as simple as giving up their Tesco delivery saver subscription

Aww no fair @Moussemoose !

the reason Y2K didn't caused you any problems was because there was lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of planning behind the scenes.

Well exactly my point. Politicians should have been planning for when we leave to make sure this is a success, not endlessly bickering and point scoring and doing their level best to get people to call a halt to the process.

But, you just worry about name calling. That's what really matters.

I'm not worried about name calling. If posters want to show themselves up why should I worry?

I was responding to this post

Although apparently being 'angry' is the winning strategy for Leave, I refuse to descend to that.

Brexit supporting politicians, the ones running the leave campaign. You know the campaign you voted for. Those politicians are the ones who wanted Article 50 invoked as quickly as possible.

Many of us who voted remain could see this would not work. One of the many reasons I did not vote for Brexit was it was apparent it was unworkable.

You voted for a unworkable Brexit not me.

Weetabixandshreddies and again you pick up on the side issue of name calling when the substantive part of the post was about the negative impact of Brexit.

It's almost like you are trying to avoid it. themoomoo actually asked about negative impacts of Brexit and her response was to called the German company involved twats.

But @Weetabixandshreddies , they shouldn't plan because that's Project Fear

People who voted to leave the EU were just called cunts on another thread about Jeremy Corbin.

They’ve been called thick oiks on another one.

No I don't regret it. But I prefer no deal to crap deal.

But @Weetabixandshreddies , they shouldn't plan because that's Project Fear

Of course planning for the future isn't Project Fear.

That is exactly what the politicians should be doing - looking at the areas where we need to source goods from outside the EU and negotiating with countries that will supply them, look at any legislation that needs adapting, etc.

I don't mean that they should be running around screaming like headless chickens.

Brexit means change, not disaster.

People who voted to leave the EU were just called cunts on another thread about Jeremy Corbin

The closer we get to leaving the angrier they’re getting.
It’s actually quite frightening - why I don’t post much on the brexit board anymore.

Yes people have called leavers names.

Posters have also said "we win you lose get over it" - that's rude and aggressive.

Now could we please return to the point about negative impacts of Brexit.

Leaver asked - has anyone actually been impacted negatively? Several response giving examples.

And now....

But if we don't leave there will be riots?

That's an ok thing to post?

Both sides are saying stupid and inflammatory things.

That is why the extremes - left and right - want Brexit. The extremes want violence, threats and disorder. Brexit is all about causing disruption and upsetting the status quo. Brexit is all about forcing people to extreme positions.

The want Brexit because it will force people to take one side or the other and then turn to populist extreme politicians.

This isn't a side effect of Brexit it's the whole point.

I have seen a lot of comments on the lack of planning for a leave vote. I agree that it was very poor form to call a referendum without some basic contingency planning. I think Cameron and his cronies simply didn't conceive of the idea that the nation would actually be stupid enough to vote leave. Clearly, they should have done their homework properly.

Decent planning probably would have resulted in a more strategic approach to the negotiation process and I imagine that we wouldn't have rushed to trigger article 50 in the knee-jerk manner that we did.

That said, I am not convinced that better planning would have prevented this current shit storm. The Northern Ireland problem wouldn't have gone away, and the right wing of the Tory party would never have been prepared to compromise. We cannot walk away from the union and continue to enjoy all the benefits of EU membership as if nothing has changed. The whole project was unworkable from the outset, and no amount of planning would have fixed that.

Leave voters would have reason to be angry if they don’t get what they actually voted for.
Remainers are just angry because they lost and because not everyone agrees with them.

Clearly, they should have done their homework properly.

Indeed. The public urgency for a referendum to leave the EU has been building since the Lisbon treaty debacle and it was strong enough before that. The fact that a very large number of British people were unhappy with integration into the political aspect of the European Union should have been recognised. Leave voters didn't wake up, read a poster on a bus and go yeah, I'll have a bit of that. I lived in the EU and studied EU law. I was informed and my leave vote represents many years of knowing what the hell I was voting for. Cameron seriously underestimated the intelligence of the electorate, and seriously overestimated his PR and marketing skills after 'winning' the Scottish referendum.

Remainers are just angry because they lost and because not everyone agrees with them.

Personally I’m angry because Brexit is causing complete havoc to my family’s studies, jobs, livelihoods and finances.

It's a good enough reason to be angry, User. We are all in some way selfish about our vote.