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Is there anybody here who voted 'leave' who now regrets it?

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Applepudding2018 · 11/12/2018 20:25

Just wondering.

I'm generally not a very political person but seeing the total mess which seems to have been created by the government following through on the vote to leave the EU.

I think that the sane thing is to say 'OK we made a mistake, please can we stay in the EU.

I guess they won't because it's following through on the vote.

I know a lot of people are saying there should be a second vote, but I think these are people who voted to remain in the first place.

I was wondering if there would be any backing for a second referendum (or simply a let's forget brexit) from anyone who originally voted to leave. Maybe it's not delivering as you expected? Do you think that the pro-brexit politicians misrepresented things to you and you'd vote differently if you had a second chance?

(PS name change if you're embarrassed !)

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MegCleary · 13/12/2018 10:58

@TwitterQueen1 Thanks for replying, not surprised you didn’t find anything that backed up your statement.

needmorespace · 13/12/2018 11:33

I don't want to be part of a club that will "punish" you if you want to leave

How the fuck is the EU actually punishing us? How? It is simply protecting its own position. We can't have access to all the good parts without paying our dues and accepting the rules.

It is comments like this that make me fucking despair.

Maryjoyce · 13/12/2018 11:33

Deffinately thick as I said

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Leafyhouse · 13/12/2018 11:41

I voted Remain, but now my wishful thinking tells me that Leave could work. It's a hell of a risk though, so I'd vote Remain again. One thing I've noticed is that the whole Leave / Remain debate is debated purely in economic terms in the UK, because that's how the UK views the EU.

Other EU issues, such as human rights, health and safety legislation, environmental protection, and security just don't get a look-in in the UK, because we've never seen ourselves as needing the EU to provide that for us.

On the continental mainland, they have a different view - we spent this summer Inter-Railing round Europe with the kids, and at the far end of Slovakia, 50km from the Ukrainian border, they see the EU as a necessary buffer, the saviour that delivered them from communism.

I guess that we just see the EU differently to others - it's all just about trade to us, and on that point we do differ.

Cattenberg · 13/12/2018 11:42

@themoomoo, the company I worked for saw a dramatic decline in sales following the referendum. The finance manager said it had never been that bad in the thirty years of the company's existence. I and others were made redundant.

I found another job after a few weeks, but this time in a public sector organisation which has just been cut to the bone. We can look forward to another round of redundancies if the economy declines after March 2019.

themoomoo · 13/12/2018 11:44

needmorespace
I was replying to a remainer poster who said this

I think some folks just can't admit they made a mistake. No one can look at this mess, look at the impacts of no deal, look at the comprismises we need to make to lessen the punishment the eu have the power to dole out and think, yeah, I'll have a bit of that

and yes, I agree with you, some of the comments made by remainers do indeed make me despair too

themoomoo · 13/12/2018 11:45

cattenberg I'm intrigued as to what the company was selling and how the referendum caused a dramatic fall in sales when we haven't actually left

thetemptationofchocolate · 13/12/2018 11:46

DH voted Leave, and he voted Tory in the last election. He is now saying that our retirement fund isn't doing so well. This is going to affect when I can give up work (he has already given up). He blames the Government (which he voted for) and Brexit (which he also voted for). I have been stewing over this for months and finally told him straight that he was as much to blame for this as anyone else, seeing how he'd voted.
I wish he would regret his vote, it might make me less inclined to tell him to fuck off.

bellinisurge · 13/12/2018 11:48

@themoomoo if you don't understand how businesses rely on forward contingency planning and customers do the same, I'm afraid you know Jack Shit.

themoomoo · 13/12/2018 11:48

temptation pension funds have been plummeting in value for many years.

longwayoff · 13/12/2018 11:49

Ouch temptation, you must do a lot of tongue biting. Keep it up Xmas Smile

GinaLinetti99 · 13/12/2018 11:49

I voted leave. Not on immigration. I'd personally prefer a Norway style EEA+ agreement to full membership.

If there was a second referendum I honestly don't know how I'd vote. It's all been a bit of a shambles and although I still believe in Brexit, I think it's been handled so poorly that remaining in and keeping the status quo might just be the better option.

Jaxhog · 13/12/2018 11:49

But that's the remain campaigns fault for not letting people know how damaging it would be.

But they did. Unfortunately, the leave camp told a bunch of lies about how we would 'be better off'. Too many people believed what they wanted to believe rather than the truth. If I'd voted to leave, I would be very angry about this right now.

CarlGrimesMissingEye · 13/12/2018 11:53

I voted leave because of my views on how the EU runs itself as an entity, it's breadth of reach, and the plans to further reach into domestic life of member countries. It genuinely had nothing to do with immigration. Immigration is great for the country.

Do I regret it. Well...

I don't regret voting that way in the sense that this was meant to be a once in a generation thing and I was unlikely to be able to have another vote on the matter in my lifetime.

However, I will concede that it was not easy and did not sit well voting the same was as all the arseholes who voted the same way because they are racist bigoted bastards. I am also exceptionally displeased at the shitshow that is the way our politicians have run things.

If I could go back in time I would be advocating for a referendum that had mandatory voting and required a 60/40 turn out in favour of changing the status quo. A direct narrow majority of a small voting turnout was never going to end well.

I regret the friendships lost because of the vigour of some of the commentary targeted at me by people I thought better of.

I regret trusting that our politicians would come together and actually work together to produce a negotiating team that could put an optimistic and positive spin on things instead of pulling in a squillion different directions.

The whole thing is a bloody mess and honestly, if I had to vote again, I'd probably vote remain. My personal friendships and relationships are more important than political ideology.

needmorespace · 13/12/2018 11:55

But that's the remain campaigns fault for not letting people know how damaging it would be

Jesus wept - is this the level of justification that some leavers use for fucking over more than half the population and the youth of this country.

The remain campaign did let people know how bad it would be but were dismissed as scaremongers and told that expert opinion was not needed (Gove I'm looking at you). Project Fear ring any bells?

And people are trying to convince me that most leavers are not thick?

FFS

Singlenotsingle · 13/12/2018 11:55

I voted Leave and would do so again. The only thing I regret is that the EU are so determined we shouldn't leave that they are doing everything in their power to put obstacles in our way. I also don't think it helps to have a PM who isn't strong or clever enough enough to get us what we want.

themoomoo · 13/12/2018 12:05

needmorespace you failed to understand my previous post quoting the EU punishing us so I think your levels of intelligence are maybe not as great as you like to think.
Such a lazy argument . Everyone with a different opinion to myself is obviously stupid.

maxthemartian · 13/12/2018 12:16

Deffinately thick as I said

The irony. It's spelled definitely.

floodypuddle · 13/12/2018 12:17

People I know that voted leave:

My grandfather, who was both racist (wanted to get the muslims out!!) and had dementia, and how since passed away. He would regularly tell me what muslims believe and x,y, z about them despite my oldest best friend being muslim and so having a comprehensive understanding of what the religion entails....

My brother who has a lot of radical right wing ideas and normally doesn't mind gobbing off about all manner of ridiculous things who has gone suspiciously quiet on the matter.

An old friend who isn't particularly bright, she's lovely but reads far too many tabloids and doesn't have many critical thinking skills so sort of knew it would go that way.

Finally a couple who voted that way because their son asked them to who told me they immediately regretted it and don't think the gov should of let us have a vote on something that the majority of people couldn't possibly understand properly.

I think that's the main issue. Most people didn't (and still don't) really know what the EU actually does. I've studied it so I have a good idea that it might cause economic problems but from most peoples perspectives they just force us to do various things and the reason why is as clear as mud. This is why we pay politicians and their advisers - they are supposed to understand it for us and act in the countries best interests. You wouldn't ask a solicitor to do a hernia op would you...

Knittedfairies · 13/12/2018 12:20

I voted remain and would do so again. I think Cameron and crew had a referendum to get UKIP off his back; he didn’t expect to lose just as Boris and his cronies didn’t expect to win. What other explanation can there be as to why neither side had a plan in place?
I’m not a fan of Theresa May but I can’t see how anyone could have negotiated a better deal; you can’t leave a game and still call the shots.

needmorespace · 13/12/2018 12:27

No, themoomoo, I don't think I did misunderstand it? What you said was fairly clear.
Your subsequent posts all seem to tend towards the 'maybe' and 'hopefully not' as well.
My comments stand.

goldengummybear · 13/12/2018 12:29



needmorespace · 13/12/2018 12:34

I voted Leave and would do so again. The only thing I regret is that the EU are so determined we shouldn't leave that they are doing everything in their power to put obstacles in our way. I also don't think it helps to have a PM who isn't strong or clever enough enough to get us what we want

The EU isn't putting obstacles in our way - whatever makes you think that? The EU is simply protecting its own interests. If we want to leave, just crash out leave, we can do so!! The problem is that we want to have our cake and eat it. We do not want free movement and we want to make our own laws and ignore the red tape (you know, workers rights etc) and we want to not contribute financially. But we also want to enjoy similar trading rules that apply to the rest of the club.
The EU is not making it difficult for us. This is a mess entirely of the leave vote and you need to own it.

themoomoo · 13/12/2018 12:35

needmore you did misunderstand. You thought I was saying the EU wanted to punish us. I was replying to a previous remainer who held that view. ( quite simple really, but there again I don't really know how thick you are; as you don't know how thick leavers are)
as to the maybe's. well, it's all maybe isn't it? Unless you have some insider knowledge which can confirm possible scenarios, and as no one in government can yet do that I would be surprised at your knowledge

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