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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
ContessaHallelujahSparklehorse · 23/11/2018 07:32

As an aside, some kid brought his Pokemon cards to my son's party this summer and several kids just refused to play any party games after that - just sat and stared at the cards. I don't think DS1 noticed too much as he was running around with the others, but I was pissed off!! Keep it focused on the one thing.

Suggested party itinerary:

  1. Run around shouting while everyone arrives
  2. Painting session (first thing while they are fresh and keen)
  3. Musical chairs (I.e. run around to blow off steam)
  4. Pass the parcel or similar (or continue painting)
  5. Food
  6. Present kids with nearly-dry paintings
  7. Hometime!
HSMMaCM · 23/11/2018 07:32

And yes to getting John to help with painting if he's so keen to get involved.

ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser · 23/11/2018 07:32

I would be inclined to either put a joint message out to everyone attending, or a single message to your dF just reiterating,

‘Hi there, just a short message before DS’s party on Sunday, as there seems to have been some confusion, DS is having a painting party, NOT a football party. He is very excited about painting with all of his friends and I am sure the children will love the opportunity to paint and have fun with my ds. I understand if some children don’t want to partake in a painting activity, however (as kind as it was to offer), there will be NO separate football activity whilst we are painting. (If your ds can’t attend a painting party without playing football, then I totally understand if he doesn’t attend.) Ds and I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday, don’t forget to wear old clothes 🙂

mathanxiety · 23/11/2018 07:33

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Stop believing it is important not to offend people. It is not important.

I suspect what you really mean is 'I am nervous about putting on my big girl knickers and looking Friend and John straight in the eye and saying No, actually, the party will be the way my son and I want it, and it won't include football.'

Ask yourself what is the worst thing that could happen after you speak plainly to both of them.

Then put on your big girl knickers and just do it.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 23/11/2018 07:33

I think I’d be more blunt, but then tact isn’t my strong point. I’d tell her that if her son doesn’t want to come, then your son will be disappointed. Thank you for offering a football session but that’s not what yiurcDS wants and it won’t be happening.

NinjaGoSaysNo · 23/11/2018 07:33

I agree that gender norms are ridiculous.

But you said you'll be having a party outside, in November?! Are you in the UK?

Hmm
ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser · 23/11/2018 07:34

Lol ignore the different days, I am clearly not awake properly yet 😂

VisitorsEntrance · 23/11/2018 07:36

I was thinking about this.
Back in the 70s things for children seemed so much more gender neutral.
A birthday party was party games followed by jelly and ice cream. Clothes were cords and a t-shirt.
Yes there were dolls for girls and cars for boys but none of this pamper party stuff for young girls.

gamerwidow · 23/11/2018 07:36

Poor John probably doesn’t want to play football at a kids party either but has been railroaded into it by his wife who has probably told him you want him to do it.

needsahouseboy · 23/11/2018 07:36

I'd be telling my friend to feck off tbh! Its your son's party not theirs and if they don't like it then they don't come. I am rather assertive though.

My son likes football, not massively but he would have loved a painting party and he's not even that crafty. Don't let them take over your DS's party or they will do this over everything. Stand up for yourself and your son.

mathanxiety · 23/11/2018 07:37

Friends do not give out friend's phone numbers without their permission.

And YYY to this.

What does anyone know about this 'John' too - what sort of man is ok with turning up uninvited to play football with a bunch of unrelated children?

Is there a background check?

Your DS is in nursery. Once he starts school you may never see this woman or her children again. You need to stop this madness.

Dawsonforehead · 23/11/2018 07:37

This is your son's party! Don't let him favourite activity be bullied out of his own party just because of this other mum, shouldn't even call her a friend. She needs to mind her own business, she had her chance at parties for her own children and now she needs to butt the hell out of your plans.

mathanxiety · 23/11/2018 07:39

Just because he is someone's husband doesn't mean he is safe organising children.

timeisnotaline · 23/11/2018 07:39

Be very clear.
Dear x , I’ve been thinking and I don’t want your dh to bring any football things. It’s ds’s party and he is very much looking forward to the painting activity. If your dh is saying everyone come over here and play football instead he will be upset. I won’t have my son’s own birthday party spoilt for him. I understand if that doesn’t suit your boys you dont have to come but it will be a football free party. Thanks!

Sheitgeist · 23/11/2018 07:40

Seriously, tell her to fuck off. Who does she think she is trying to take over your party?
OK, maybe don't tell her to fuck off exactly, but make it plain her and her husband's contribution to your son's party isn't necessary or welcome.
My DC have been to painting and craft parties before, some hosted by boys. I have an arty son of my own (now 26) and, as a former primary school teacher I can tell you that boys enjoy craft and painting just as much as girls.
Be strong and tell them.

Abra1de · 23/11/2018 07:44

I did clay modelling with my son for his 8th birthday. Lots of sports-mad boys came and enjoyed it.

Abra1de · 23/11/2018 07:45

What does anyone know about this 'John' too - what sort of man is ok with turning up uninvited to play football with a bunch of unrelated children?

My husband often played football with my son and his friends. Normal behaviour. Just not for this party.

Mxyzptlk · 23/11/2018 07:45

A strongly worded text.

Dear friend, I and DS do not want football at the party. Please do not bring footballs or attempt to run a football session as you will spoil what I've planned.

Clear & straight to the point.

I'm glad you've decided to put them off, OP. They are bullies.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 23/11/2018 07:46

I seem to have made it to be a 47 y/o man without ever knowingly played football
I love the idea that you might have accidentally played football without realising it!

PetronellaRabbit · 23/11/2018 07:47

Tell her firmly it’s about what your son wants not what her son wants. It’s your DS’s party after all. Tell her he doesn’t want football and it will really upset him.

Diddlysquat this child is 4 not 14, no-one’s going to take the piss out of him. What OP is planning sounds like a fun party.

headinhands · 23/11/2018 07:47

Omg. Unbelievable! It's your sons party. Not hers. Last time I looked most of the stuff in the Louvre was done by humans with oenisis (aware that humans with vaginas aren't as well represented due to patriarchy before anyone starts).

onthenaughtystepagain · 23/11/2018 07:51

P.S. my son went to s painting party for all boys when he was 4/5 and still says it was his favourite 4 years later

We have some hideous thumb pots, 40+ years old!

frogsbreath · 23/11/2018 07:54

Your friend is a dick. My son would hate a football activity and love a painting rockets one. So would another 3 or 4 of his friends.

TheFaerieQueene · 23/11/2018 07:54

Send your friend to the National Gallery. She might change her mind about males and painting.

onthenaughtystepagain · 23/11/2018 07:54

Let them paint his football!

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