Just to put my mind at rest about self ID.

[CaptainKirkssparetupee]

What will be put in place to stop a peodophile /fetishist sitting in a female swimming changing room watching people undress?
I'd like facts rather than "I would think" and "i assume"

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004

Information about consultation here. Consultation ends 11pm on 19 October.

I wouldn't want myself or DD to be in a changing room with a man, whoever they were pretending to be. If it was at a shop I'd speak to the staff. "I don't want to try these clothes on with a man watching me. Can you provide me with a private space - eg the manager's office, or shall I put the clothes back on the rail and shop elsewhere?"

Everyone needs to stop this nonsense right now.

Write to your MP and councillors to express your concern. As well as the questionnaire, this will mean that they won't have the excuse of 'nobody has raised it with me' and they will have to decide where they stand. MPs are the priority as, of course, they are the legislators.

The creator of the largest twitter block list aimed at preventing women talking about safeguarding, is currently serving 22 years in prison for the rape and torture of a 10 year old girl (while he wore a nappy). I suspect transgender activism, for some, is a Trojan horse for gaining acceptability for trans-age.

Can you tell me what currently stops a paedophile/fetishist sitting in a women's dressing room perving right now? Ah, of course, all bad people are men...

Anyway, do you realise that you could easily be sharing a toilet or changing facilities with someone with a penis right now? You can be a legal women without complete gender reassignment - thankfully - because not everyone wants to go through that level of major surgery. So one of the many women you pass on a day to day basis could be in possession of a penis and does that matter? Have you exploded in terror from something you wouldn't even realise? No, thought not.

do you realise that you could easily be sharing a toilet or changing facilities with someone with a penis right now

I should hope so, i'm male.

you could easily be sharing a toilet or changing facilities with someone with a penis right now?
Yes but if they made you feel uncomfortable you currently have a legal right to have them removed for being there. Do you not?

Ah, of course, all bad people are men

Not at all but this topic put women in danger, this is who rights are being removed from, not men.

So what you are currently saying wrenika is nothing will be inplace?
And the sex segregation which provides some protection is all that's currently stopping this happening?

Thank you

So one of the many women you pass on a day to day basis could be in possession of a penis and does that matter?

no everyone should be fully clothed in the street. - do you agree?

wrenika
If self ID is put What is to stop Rolf Harris going into a female changing room sitting on the centre bench and watching?
Will he be made to leave if he says he's female?

Can you tell me what currently stops a paedophile/fetishist sitting in a women's dressing room perving right now? Ah, of course, all bad people are men

Can you send me some examples of a female being caught filming other women in a changing room or toilet? Or sexually assaulting women in public? Or exposing themselves to people in public?

And I mean an actual female, the ones without penises.

wrenika What to stop him saying he's female, will ID be checked or will that be an infringement of rights?

Just facts please no "i assume"

Anything in writing about stuff like this?

wrenika please, you have answers here, come on?

So as wrenika has kindly pointed out, the only thing currently in place to stop this is what self ID will remove.

wrenika If trangender people without surgery are so hard to spot how on earth i they found and targeted?

70% of trans gender people have experianced some from of violence?

according to you, they look like every other woman, does this mean they constantly have their penises out?

No, thought not.

wrenika

Help me out here, Either transgender people presurgery are so easy to spot, and are in fact not in female toilets all the time and you are not being honest.

Or they are easy to spot and that's why 70% are targeted?

or are the figures wrong?

come on wrenika

Just facts please.

Nothing. That's part of the problem with self-Id. But even if the transman isn't in there just for kicks - why should a young girl (or any female) be faced with an adult penis in a female space?

Sorry, that should be transwoman I think.

wrenika
I'm looking for some logic with facts and figures....
Please help me out?
Surely you agree they don't add up?

sexually assaulting women in public

Didn't Rosemary West do this?

Right, there's something else i'm having trouble with too, as someone with autism i quite like things to make sense and i'm a bit like Columbo when they don't, things niggle at me and it's 'one more question after another.

Would wrenika (you know your stuff) or anyone else help me out with this?
Right, tranwomen are women, which means they are human females, is this right wrenika?
But you don't agree that Human females are woman?

Isn't this a contradiction wrenika?

please help me with this, If india Willbury put up the board, would that be okay?

No boundaries. No protection. No monitoring. No differentiation.

No fucking way.

Help me work out the hierarchy wrenika (or anyone else).

Why is it okay for on woman to put it up but not another?

isn't this strange?

wrenika (or anyone else)

Why are certain woman excluded from this?