Slippery slope or moistened chute: how low can Tayto go?!

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Thread 3. You guys are awesome!

I'm not worried about Taylor. She'll wait a a while release a new album and make more millions.

Ha! I did wonder if TS was after an English actir because kp has bloom

im sure TS has been badly treated by the people that she then writes songs about but it will always look worse on her as she brings it into the open and no one sees the other side.

It can't be just about the money for her though - she wants to be loved. She needs to stop giving a shit.

I believe her account of being bullied and the bullies are never going to admit it. As she was into the whole musical theatre stuff I can well imagine there were some jealous types. bullied TayTay

I think she went too far with the Squad thing. Lovely to have lots of famous women as friends, music video was OK if you like that sort of thing, but the coming along on arena tours to tell the paying about audience amazing TayTay is just plain weird. The constant need for public praise from everyone just gets nauseating.

Thanks to you lot, I made an arse of myself by referring to Tim Hiddleston in a semi serious conversation!

I think that Taylor's eyes look bigger because her face shape has changed as she has grown, and she also has lost weight from her face.

False eyelashes and good eyeliner help with the eyes. She probably deliberately opens them wide for photos - I know I do!!!

She also definitely puts weight on her face, not that she is in the slightest bit fat, but you know how different people carry weight in different places.

Stupid RL dragged me away from this thread, plenty to catch up on though
I feel that the biggest problem with Taylor is that she is now far too old to play the ingenue role that made her famous, yet she seems reluctant to actually be seem to be an adult.
It leaves her looking immature yet simultaneously conniving!
She needs to woman up...

In view of the most popular flavour of Tayto crisps, what I want to know is who is the Cheese and who is the Onion?

Tim is definitely the cheese!

Social media has really taken the mystique out of modern day celebrity hasn't it? There they are playing their silly playground spats out on Twitter. They'd all do well to channel a bit of Greta Garbo from time to time.

There are loads of celebs who I know nothing about their personal life. Maybe they are not quite as famous because of it though

'the biggest problem with Taylor is that she is now far too old to play the ingenue role that made her famous, yet she seems reluctant to actually be seem to be an adult.'

I think you're right. Part of her still wants to be that small town girl who's just broken into the big time but wants to imagine the star quarterback rueing the day he let her go. She's 26 but she's still playing out her high school fantasies.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3695510/Tom-Hiddleston-trolled-relationship-Taylor-Swift.html

The problem with her squad jumping in saying 'use your voice for love not hate' is that TS stirred up the whole bitch thing in the first place. Whether or not she pre approved she totally played it to her advantage and now it's biting her on the arse. She should have just kept a suitable distance from the Krazy and a dignified silence

I think there's a big difference between a hypothetical song about a spat and

"I made that bitch famous"

I think she has very clear personal boundaries (and good on her. Waaaaaaaaay too many woman have none cf: relationships board) and over stepping them gets you snipped.

I would imagine being famous and being grounded (as her teen years were I believe) means that you have a good bullshit meter and you've seen a lot of people try to ride your coat tails.

Nb it's 9pm and DH and I are on date night and I'm a weeeee bit tipsy watching Veep so this may not make sense.

I just think that instead of involving herself at all in the conversation she should have just left it. It's not like everyone nods along with Kanye saying 'yes she is a bitch isn't she'. Most people think he's a twat and attention seeking. And most people know she was famous before the stupid award grab incident (except possibly Kanye because he's a deluded idiot)

As soon as she associated herself with Kanye by giving him attention she was opening the door for the kardashians who will use any tenuous link to further their goals.

Like she manages to avoid bieber - she should apply that to reality tv stars too!

Is it me, or do Chris Hemsworth's comments seem to be dissing Taytay at the end of that SBoS article...

Well, this, has all gone a bit bonkers.
Was there a, recording of Taylor agreeing to the bitch bit? I cant see to see it anywhere.

Just caught up ... the shit is hitting the fan for her isn't it.

I think that conversation with Kanye is cringey, she's so desperately trying to be cool with it all like "Yeah you can rap about hypothetically having sex with me, that's fine"... what? And the "joke's on you" comment says a lot about her need to control people's perception, and her image.

And Tim has been caught up in this at the worst possible time. Although he's not entirely a naiive innocent - nobody could agree to wear That Vest and claim they didn't realise how cheesy and set up the whole thing was.

I've not seen a recording agreeing to the bitch bit. She agreed Kanye could reference her. He called her a bitch. She took offence. I think that's fine tbh.
I'm ok with a woman in the public eye not letting Kimye control her narrative. I'm also ok with a woman in the public eye using spats with other celebs for her own PR agenda.
I guess what I find interesting is that in 2016, it's still so noticeable and worthy of comment that a famous woman is using her medium (whether it be songs or PR) to assert boundaries/control her story.

She says he never asked about the bitch part and there is no evidence he did. I can't see why she would agree to one and not the other. They are both pretty unpleasant and both kind of make the same point if you are looking from the 'sly dig at the press' angle

It's all a bit of a mess. Perhaps she was thinking it was time she moved away from high school and thought a serious relationship with a proper adult might do that. I think 2016 will be her annus horribilis but she will get over it all.

www.buzzfeed.com/kimberleydadds/heres-how-celebrities-have-been-reacting-to-the-taylor-swift?utm_term=.gnGXDqjN2#.hp38gnWEl

Front cover of Grazia has CH hitting on Taylor's best friend Kendall Jenner. They come up with amazing BS

She didn't agree to being called a bitch but the phone call gives enough of an impression that she didn't expect him to inform her of anything; and I didn't see Kanye promising to give her a preview of the finished song either.

I guess this is a good example of why those conversations need the Publicist barrier as who knows maybe she was caught off guard? Felt overpowered by Kanye as he is known to believe himself to be the best thing ever.
A drab "TayTay would never stand in the way of another artist's freedom of expression but she herself dislikes misogynistic material" would have covered her pert posterior.

Yes that would have been the perfect response frayed.

Maybe that's why she went to oz - so she can keep her head down and ride it out