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I’m a romany gypsy married to a non traveller AMA

304 replies

overstimulatedhermit · 06/10/2025 13:43

For clarification I was married to a traveller and had 3 children. So I did go down the traditional route but he was very abusive and a narcissist and I’m now dealing with the aftermath of trauma and years of abuse. But that’s another matter, I wanted to start a thread because I know people would be curious about a gypsy marrying outside her culture.

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overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:17

Mischance · 07/10/2025 16:08

I hear that the fist fighting is fine with you OP. But I think it is one of the things that makes it hard for gorjas and gypsies to get along.... which is sad. In the main people settle their differences without this, and it is an aspect that I always found unacceptable.
Damien le Bas, a Romany and now editor of Tracellers Times, in his autobiography recognises how this is a divisive aspect.
You ask how girls have limited opportunities ... by this I meant educationally. Things are changing now a bit, and I believe this to be a good thing. The girls used to talk about this.

Why would that be the reason why they don’t get on? I’d say prejudice is the reason.

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Toomuchtooearly · 07/10/2025 16:19

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 14:30

Yeah I’d say so to some degree.

Why is that?

deirdrerasheed · 07/10/2025 16:22

Its unnessary CountryQueen.

Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 16:27

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:17

Why would that be the reason why they don’t get on? I’d say prejudice is the reason.

If there is a dispute between members of the two groups, whose rules of conduct should be used to settle the matter? Is it prejudiced to say that disputes should be decided with calm discussion or if necessary escalate to either the police or civil court system instead of violence?

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:29

deirdrerasheed · 07/10/2025 16:22

Its unnessary CountryQueen.

Nah, it’s true. Every now and then you get a poster on AMA declaring various things like it’s gospel.

She’s just told me I’m not with travellers. I assure you that I am. There are plenty of videos out there showing exactly what the language is like from some of these men and young men. In front of women.

She has just told me that no gypsy would say the word dickhead in front of his Mam, wife or sister.

And it gives the complete wrong impression. It’s deluded and everyone knows it’s complete bollocks so why not call it out for what it is?

Where I live there are thousands of travellers. I work with them, I socialise at the gym with them, our kids went to school with them. Not now as sadly, most do not go on to high school despite being settled here and living here all their lives. That is changing as I said, but not quickly.

You can’t just post an AMA and then fling false info out like it’s gospel, be rude to people and tell them to sling their hook and expect it to be ignored. That’s not how this works

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:31

Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 16:27

If there is a dispute between members of the two groups, whose rules of conduct should be used to settle the matter? Is it prejudiced to say that disputes should be decided with calm discussion or if necessary escalate to either the police or civil court system instead of violence?

No need for police we settle our own disputes. The rules are no weapons, fight and shake hands afterwards job done.

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overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:36

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:29

Nah, it’s true. Every now and then you get a poster on AMA declaring various things like it’s gospel.

She’s just told me I’m not with travellers. I assure you that I am. There are plenty of videos out there showing exactly what the language is like from some of these men and young men. In front of women.

She has just told me that no gypsy would say the word dickhead in front of his Mam, wife or sister.

And it gives the complete wrong impression. It’s deluded and everyone knows it’s complete bollocks so why not call it out for what it is?

Where I live there are thousands of travellers. I work with them, I socialise at the gym with them, our kids went to school with them. Not now as sadly, most do not go on to high school despite being settled here and living here all their lives. That is changing as I said, but not quickly.

You can’t just post an AMA and then fling false info out like it’s gospel, be rude to people and tell them to sling their hook and expect it to be ignored. That’s not how this works

Who you are probably with are what we call wannabes or wydows. They are not travellers no matter what they have told you. Like I have in other comments go on travellers pages on tiktok and they will tell you, no one speaks like that infront of women. It’s classed as filthy talk. I’ve not been rude to anyone on here but if I’m being called a liar then I will pull you up on it.

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Darkout · 07/10/2025 16:38

Where I live there are thousands of travellers. I work with them, I socialise at the gym with them, our kids went to school with them.

OP said she was Romany gypsy though, not a traveller. Could that be the reason for some of the differences you’re seeing @CountryQueen?

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:42

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:36

Who you are probably with are what we call wannabes or wydows. They are not travellers no matter what they have told you. Like I have in other comments go on travellers pages on tiktok and they will tell you, no one speaks like that infront of women. It’s classed as filthy talk. I’ve not been rude to anyone on here but if I’m being called a liar then I will pull you up on it.

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No, they are travellers. End of. I don’t need my info from TikTok thank you and you’re wrong. You know it though.

The difference is not that they aren’t Romany as the neighbouring site is Romany and is worse.

As for weapons, they were out with machetes a few months ago. That’s on tik tok if you want to see it. As is the backlash from the recent murder by stabbing on the Romany gypsy site here.

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:46

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:42

No, they are travellers. End of. I don’t need my info from TikTok thank you and you’re wrong. You know it though.

The difference is not that they aren’t Romany as the neighbouring site is Romany and is worse.

As for weapons, they were out with machetes a few months ago. That’s on tik tok if you want to see it. As is the backlash from the recent murder by stabbing on the Romany gypsy site here.

Nope sorry don’t believe you for a second. End of.

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CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:50

And on a final note, I’m not disagreeing about the prejudice and persecution they face in communities, and probably directly from services like councils. They absolutely do. It’s disgusting.

As I’ve said, I have friends within the community, and the OP and others like her that claim no gypsies whatsoever swear, talk about self, say dickhead or use weapons are doing them no favours. Neither is claiming they’d send the kids to school if only the councils would build them estates to live on. Utter nonsense. You only have to look around you to disprove it

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:50

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:46

Nope sorry don’t believe you for a second. End of.

Ok love 🤣

Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 16:52

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:31

No need for police we settle our own disputes. The rules are no weapons, fight and shake hands afterwards job done.

I’m asking about a dispute where one man is a member of your community but the other man is someone outside of your community. How does that get handled?

also circling back to the fact that your husband is not a member of your community, has he been expected to use violence to resolve issues?

AgualusasL0ver · 07/10/2025 16:52

Aiteal · 06/10/2025 16:16

Thank you for this thread it’s so interesting, and I’m pleased you’re now in a happy marriage. My question is could you recommend a reputable good place to read up more about Romany culture and the differences between the travelling communities?

Great thread, I have learnt a lot.

@Aiteal i wanted to recommend a historian called. Becky Taylor https://research-portal.uea.ac.uk/en/persons/becky-taylor

If you can get hold of any of her work, even an article she is a very accessible academic.

Becky Taylor

https://research-portal.uea.ac.uk/en/persons/becky-taylor

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:57

Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 16:52

I’m asking about a dispute where one man is a member of your community but the other man is someone outside of your community. How does that get handled?

also circling back to the fact that your husband is not a member of your community, has he been expected to use violence to resolve issues?

That would just be a fight. And no he hasn’t

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overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:59

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 16:50

And on a final note, I’m not disagreeing about the prejudice and persecution they face in communities, and probably directly from services like councils. They absolutely do. It’s disgusting.

As I’ve said, I have friends within the community, and the OP and others like her that claim no gypsies whatsoever swear, talk about self, say dickhead or use weapons are doing them no favours. Neither is claiming they’d send the kids to school if only the councils would build them estates to live on. Utter nonsense. You only have to look around you to disprove it

Estates? Now I know you don’t know what your talking about🤣

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Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 17:01

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:57

That would just be a fight. And no he hasn’t

I’m still confused. So the expectation would be that a dispute would be solved with violence, not talking, not calling the police, not going to court?

GypsyQueeen · 07/10/2025 17:04

CountryQueen · 07/10/2025 15:24

Ok so as I thought, we’ve finished the gym class and my mates here are fucking roaring at this. It’s simply not true.

Your experience is nothing like theirs or anyone they know. They agree more kids are continuing in education, they agree women can continue into careers without backlash. They strongly disagree that the groups tipping up on public greens and school fields want to move into council housing and settle.

One of them has pointed out your thread was about marrying your townie man as they call him and want to know why you’ve ignored the questions about that subject? You’re taking on questions about gypsy culture (and getting it wrong in their opinion) but not telling us what’s so special or unusual about your situation with your second husband.

Why haven’t you embraced his culture? Why did he “have to” take on yours?

They agree with me the women only cleaning is sexist and they are happy that they see that changing in their community.

Why are you so invested?? It seems like you just want to deliberately be an a**hole to the OP?
It's her thread. Really unnecessary to constantly come at her and be aggressive.

Not every Romany is the same!! The OP is sharing her experiences. Your friends will obviously have different experiences. The same as any other group of people.

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 17:05

Ponderingwindow · 07/10/2025 17:01

I’m still confused. So the expectation would be that a dispute would be solved with violence, not talking, not calling the police, not going to court?

Depends what the dispute was about.

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Digdongdoo · 07/10/2025 17:33

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 17:05

Depends what the dispute was about.

I think the point is, the rest of us don't settle disputes with fights. Ever.
So how would that work? Would the traveler side agree to disagree, or would they attack anyway?

Mischance · 07/10/2025 17:47

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 16:17

Why would that be the reason why they don’t get on? I’d say prejudice is the reason.

Not everything is prejudice. Disliking violence is a legitimate reason to be concerned about this.

snemrose · 07/10/2025 17:54

I am finding all this very interesting. I remember travellers coming to our school for a couple of months each year in secondary school - not saying they weren’t bullied by some but most of us were pleased to see them.

Re the physical fighting/housework etc from the way you tell it (apologies if I have misunderstood) it seems that if a traveller marries a non traveller then the travellers culture/lifestyle dominates over the non traveller.

Cherrytree86 · 07/10/2025 17:57

@overstimulatedhermit

so how does a fight settle the dispute then? Is it whoever causes the most injury is the winner and right?

overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 18:00

Digdongdoo · 07/10/2025 17:33

I think the point is, the rest of us don't settle disputes with fights. Ever.
So how would that work? Would the traveler side agree to disagree, or would they attack anyway?

Depends what it’s about

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overstimulatedhermit · 07/10/2025 18:02

snemrose · 07/10/2025 17:54

I am finding all this very interesting. I remember travellers coming to our school for a couple of months each year in secondary school - not saying they weren’t bullied by some but most of us were pleased to see them.

Re the physical fighting/housework etc from the way you tell it (apologies if I have misunderstood) it seems that if a traveller marries a non traveller then the travellers culture/lifestyle dominates over the non traveller.

Not always.

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