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I am a submissive woman, married to my Dominant. We practice 24/7 lifestyle D/s.

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BellaDelBosco · 20/06/2024 17:17

A fellow mumsnetter suggested it would be interesting for me to post an AMA and here I am.

I ran a search in previous AMAs and I believe this subject has not been tackled. There was a previous thread from a male submissive and a tradwife but I do not think there is one written by a submissive woman. I mean, there was a poor masochist sub who tried to start a conversation but did not quite go to plan and she did not come back on the thread. I hope this attempt will generate an interesting discussion and I'll be able to dispel some myths.

The context: I have been married to my Dominant for over twenty years and we are still very very much in love, in fact we are totally enthralled by each other. We met in an unusual setting but not specifically BDSM-oriented. I had previous experience and it was I who suggested this setup, which was really clarifying and expressing a dynamic already present in our relationship. We had couple counselling, read books and we still work at our relationship every day.

Why this could be interesting: BDSM references are more and more present, in TV programs and social media. There are whole series dedicated to it (Netflix Bonding) It's relatively easy to gather experiences from professionals in the field, esp. Dominants, but to hear the true voices of people who have made this as a lifestyle choice throughout the years it is harder. There are also false narratives of BDSM that are portrayed by erotic literature but, again, the lived experience of real life couples is different. My life is very similar to an ordinary life in many ways but it has also some not ordinary aspects, that I am willing to open up.

My boundaries: this is what we call a 'hard limit': I am going to respond to questions related to sexual habits only in a very broad, general way as 1. this is not the place and 2. it is mainly a relationship style, and it is a spiritual relationship, the sexual aspect is a byproduct and a means of communication of other aspects. I am also not going to respond to DMs. If you have questions please ask on the thread. Finally, another point of interesting discussion could be how this lifestyle has brought us to be still so happy together through the decades when many marriages and in divorce within a few years.

The timings: I live a structured, busy life so please do not be alarmed if I'm not responding immediately.

edited as I caught a typo.

OP posts:
sammylady37 · 28/06/2024 06:30

MartyFunkhouser · 25/06/2024 19:23

But many ARE interested. Not because they themselves fancy a bit of domestic subjugation, but to understand what goes wrong in someone's life that they end up wanting to be secondary to their partner and to even be abused by them.

I would love to know what damage led the OP to such low self-esteem but for all the verbosity, we are none the wiser. I would question the mental-health of a friend or relative in this sort of relationship and I'd feel very sorry for her.

If you were that concerned you’d have read all the OP’s posts including the ones where she describes her childhood trauma and abuse.

Superlambaanana · 28/06/2024 08:08

Is anyone else a tad concerned that the OP hasn't replied for 4 days?

Her DH was aware she had started the thread and I assume had access to read it. From what she's said she has no privacy or personal autonomy in any way so she has no way to communicate (including to ask tor help) that her DH wouldn't see.

He will have seen that many posters felt she was in a seedy/ abusive/ damaging/ worrying etc relationship.

Could he have turned nasty as a result of this and blamed her for starting the thread in the first place?

Trixiefirecracker · 28/06/2024 08:30

Superlambaanana · 28/06/2024 08:08

Is anyone else a tad concerned that the OP hasn't replied for 4 days?

Her DH was aware she had started the thread and I assume had access to read it. From what she's said she has no privacy or personal autonomy in any way so she has no way to communicate (including to ask tor help) that her DH wouldn't see.

He will have seen that many posters felt she was in a seedy/ abusive/ damaging/ worrying etc relationship.

Could he have turned nasty as a result of this and blamed her for starting the thread in the first place?

Nope, I think she probably just got tired of being flamed.

IntoTheMild · 28/06/2024 09:00

Superlambaanana · 28/06/2024 08:08

Is anyone else a tad concerned that the OP hasn't replied for 4 days?

Her DH was aware she had started the thread and I assume had access to read it. From what she's said she has no privacy or personal autonomy in any way so she has no way to communicate (including to ask tor help) that her DH wouldn't see.

He will have seen that many posters felt she was in a seedy/ abusive/ damaging/ worrying etc relationship.

Could he have turned nasty as a result of this and blamed her for starting the thread in the first place?

As a submissive in a 24/7 DS relationship myself, they would have laughed at or got off on your outrage, and she will have been bored of trying to justify herself.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 09:09

As a submissive in a 24/7 DS relationship myself, they would have laughed at or got off on your outrage

That's nice dear.

Spudthespanner · 28/06/2024 09:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 09:09

As a submissive in a 24/7 DS relationship myself, they would have laughed at or got off on your outrage

That's nice dear.

😂

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 28/06/2024 11:52

So that’s 3 submissives on this thread interesting I’d say

ok so what I’ve got is
24/7 must get boring surely.
wears a necklace I’m thinking a dog collar for some reason as it’s heavy
he owns her
sees herself as a slave
was abused as a child and I don’t think it’s been dealt with
goes to munches to pass on and gain tips on the relationship dynamics
oh and now is bored with us all.

think that’s it

Seriously most women couldn’t/wouldn’t live this life and I myself think this is an abusive relationship to be honest..

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 11:58

No, you just don't understand the superior nature of this type of relationship @Sevenwondersofthewoo! It's beyond the ken of boring "vanilla" people.

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 28/06/2024 12:01

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 11:58

No, you just don't understand the superior nature of this type of relationship @Sevenwondersofthewoo! It's beyond the ken of boring "vanilla" people.

Vanilla
kinky
bdsm
etc

whatever sex your having isn’t boring to that person

oh and vanilla people how old are you 15

PTown · 28/06/2024 12:16

I’m going to have some vanilla sex tonight. Quite looking forward to it, actually. 🍦

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2024 12:29

whatever sex your having isn’t boring to that person

oh and vanilla people how old are you 15

Yes I was being sarcastic.

Calliecarpa · 28/06/2024 13:44

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 28/06/2024 12:01

Vanilla
kinky
bdsm
etc

whatever sex your having isn’t boring to that person

oh and vanilla people how old are you 15

How did you miss her obvious sarcasm? It was visible from outer space. She was agreeing with you!

Scirocco · 28/06/2024 13:58

PTown · 28/06/2024 12:16

I’m going to have some vanilla sex tonight. Quite looking forward to it, actually. 🍦

I'm going to have a nice cup of tea and some chocolate cake.

CowTown · 28/06/2024 14:13

Scirocco · 28/06/2024 13:58

I'm going to have a nice cup of tea and some chocolate cake.

🤣 ☕️🍰

Trixiefirecracker · 28/06/2024 14:16

Scirocco · 28/06/2024 13:58

I'm going to have a nice cup of tea and some chocolate cake.

Please ask permission first. 😜

PrincessMee · 28/06/2024 14:58

Sillystrumpet · 26/06/2024 22:15

I thought she did it as it’s sprialled down to this extreme level and she doesn’t wish the marriage to end.

For at least two decades. due to kids, she’s not lived like this. It was clearly very different. Now they’ve left home, she’s alone with him, and this is what she has to do. Kneel when he comes home. Wait kneeling in the bedroom at bed time. Sit on th4 floor not allowed on the sofa, get punished in a way she can’t speak of.

what probably was going on throughout was, She can’t even spend her own money and has to ask permission for anything non essential over a fiver. He says what she wears, decides her clothes, she does everything in th4 house, she does everything for the kids she says, so he doesn’t get involved. Maybe punishments weren’t as brutal /harsh/humilating, if kids were there.

and if he was reading this thread, then she’s always going to put it she loves it.

but no one healthy can love this. Sure, I can see it as a game every now and again, but 24/7, to live like this, it’s hard to read, sad. ----

I've just watched something about people with a history of child sexual abuse which results in mental conditions to enable the person to cope with it. Perhaps the OP presents in this way as part of this coping. I have no idea why a woman would allow someone else to treat them in this way.

Superlambaanana · 28/06/2024 21:59

@IntoTheMild
"As a submissive in a 24/7 DS relationship myself, they would have laughed at or got off on your outrage, and she will have been bored of trying to justify herself."

I hope the 'your' in your reply is not directed at me as I was not outraged at the OP's lifestyle at all. In fact I was one of the very few pps who commended her for apparently having forged a happy life, a lasting relationship, and causing no harm to anyone else.

But I am concerned about any woman who is unable to maintain an exit strategy because she has no financial independence, nor is able to communicate privately without her DH's knowledge.

The fact that the OP is subjected to indescribably awful 'punishments' from her DH just adds to the natural concern about the fact the DH is unlikely to have been best pleased about the majority of reactions on this thread - which included derision, accusations of him being an abuser, attempts to persuade the OP she should escape etc.

DazedNotConfused1 · 29/06/2024 00:38

Superlambaanana · 28/06/2024 21:59

@IntoTheMild
"As a submissive in a 24/7 DS relationship myself, they would have laughed at or got off on your outrage, and she will have been bored of trying to justify herself."

I hope the 'your' in your reply is not directed at me as I was not outraged at the OP's lifestyle at all. In fact I was one of the very few pps who commended her for apparently having forged a happy life, a lasting relationship, and causing no harm to anyone else.

But I am concerned about any woman who is unable to maintain an exit strategy because she has no financial independence, nor is able to communicate privately without her DH's knowledge.

The fact that the OP is subjected to indescribably awful 'punishments' from her DH just adds to the natural concern about the fact the DH is unlikely to have been best pleased about the majority of reactions on this thread - which included derision, accusations of him being an abuser, attempts to persuade the OP she should escape etc.

Ignore

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2024 00:42

DS relationships are built on trust and love, and are, in the majority, less strict and with more laughter than they would seem to have from an outside perspective.

This is typical propaganda by BDSMers. There is plenty of male on female abuse that I'm aware of which is No True Scotsmanned away as "not true Dominants, because true Dominants are good men".

Ginandpangolins · 19/07/2024 17:13

BellaDelBosco · 24/06/2024 10:13

Oh I love this question. Thank you.

So respect to myself: absolutely YES because I'm respecting my identity. Letting go and just being unashamedly yourself, shadow and all feels so good and liberating. (not: I still believe we have different selves and I'm being unashamedly me at work too - as I mentioned many times we are multilayered and complicated/) Submissive is my love language.

And on the question if my beloved husband (Master/best friend and occasional pain in the arse) respects me - that's another strong YES because he loves me in the way I need.

I also have a broader question, for you and all, do you think serving is not a noble act that deserves respect per se? I do.

OP, I see you mention shadow. How do you see this playing into your dynamic!

Ginandpangolins · 19/07/2024 17:31

SGsling · 20/06/2024 18:49

I certainly feel queasy.

OP, I believe there is evidence of being Sub, with hospital stays as a child. Can I ask were you in hospital as a child?

There is something about your description that seems to get my back up. I think what grates is that I (as have many women here) have lived with an actual dominator. Someone capricious; angry; abusive. Saying stuff like “I always ask permission” sounds, not very dominated. It sounds like a game, where you have appropriated the abuse of women for your own gratification. Do you think that’s a fair assessment?

Am not OP, but when you are an abused person, there is a certain amount of comfort in falling into the arms of an authoritative person, who appears to want the best for you.
In my experience, in a martial arts club, we were sought out frequently by young people who had no role models (male or female) but who thrived under the family atmosphere.
It's probably the same incentive that drives people to the Manosphere, and so on, who appeals to your vulnerabilities, but seems to be fighting for you.
Maybe it's the same for Femsubs too. They want a benign dictator; someone who leads the way, but has their best interests at heart.
Disclaimer:Am not a female submissive.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 24/07/2024 23:00

I also have a broader question, for you and all, do you think serving is not a noble act that deserves respect per se? I do.

@BellaDelBosco Yes but the highest forms of giving are without reward/expectation of reward. Just out of generosity rather than for a sexual/psychological thrill.

Even more to be esteemed is to give to someone who is poor etc and can't reciprocate. (Luke 14:13.)

AliasGrace47 · 09/08/2024 16:30

I know this thread is dead now but I looked up the books the op recommended. I'm def not into BDSM, but I'm curious about what makes people to get off on being humiliated and dominated to the extent op does.

AliasGrace47 · 09/08/2024 16:41

Raven Kaldera, the author of one bk and editor of another, and a pagan, has been accused of telling rape survivors they were raped as a strength test from Odin, and worse..
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3819.0

DoraExplor3r · 16/10/2024 20:07

Thank you OP I am a dominant woman who is currently negotiating a lifestyle D/s arrangement with my partner and this thread has been really interesting and helpful, I am finding it difficult to find good, real resources to navigate this stage of our lives as there’s a lot of erotica but little about the problems and issues that people face when deciding to live in a power exchange relationship. I’ve registered just to read your posts, I haven’t bothered with the full thread but I’ll read it all in the next few days.