I am a Black male stripper and naked cleaner/butler in London working almost exclusively for white women. AMA

[OliverMartins]

As the title says. Happy to answer any questions you might have.

Telling a Black man how he should behave and that he is not capable of making his own decisions and understanding his own environment is pretty objectionable too.

God some people are really playing dumb. There is a whole line of porn dedicated to 'big black cocks' and dominating white woman. Do I agree with the porn industry as a whole? No. Do I think it's extremely exploitative and harmful to women. Yes.

Everyone here is pretending they can't possibly understand why the race mentions are important; for the OP to be successful he relies on the 'othering' and sexualisation of black male bodies, often done by white women who fantasise about being dominated or 'destroyed' by a 'big black cock' - even if a person doesn't enjoy that particular fantasy, you must surely understand that it exists and that the OP is playing into it. For that reason it's crucial he mentions race. We can be critical of it, interrogate the potential subversion of power roles at play here, question complicity and reproduction of harmful racial stereotypes etc but pretending race is irrelevant is ridiculous and makes you look silly.

Hope you stay safe, OP.

My question, have you ever had sex with a client?

I'm a bit confused by your thought process. You acknowledge that it's mostly white women you hire you, but you don't want to address why that might be? Surely the very act of hiring you is "race play" to some extent?

When did I say you're not capable of making your own decisions?

You can do what you want.

I'm not a black man but as a human, I'm telling you now, you're being exploited. It's not empowering to be sexualised for money by anyone, especially when the underlying kink is degrading your race.

Are you aware of a similar market of white male naked cleaners for black women ?
Personally I think it’s you having the last laugh here, you’re earning a good living and probably having fun in the process.

A very interesting post and you seem to have quite a detailed and eye-opening knowledge of race-based pornography.

As to your question, I don't really think answering it is suitable (even on an AMA thread)

I think you are being quite discourteous and not doing yourself any favours in terms of increasing your ability to understand other people.

The OP is entitled to his POV, as your are yours - arguing and questioning is one thing, but just dismissing everything he says doesn’t serve anyone or anything.

I know damn well why it is. The point is so do they - and in the cases where there is an underlying kink, it is one that is lived out in a controlled and harmless environment, rather than in other ways, which is far more dangerous.

It can quite often be domination the other way though right?

Oh like when it's better for a man to batter a prostitute, "consensually" for money rather than someone out in the real world?

This is not harmless.

How old are you?

I find having a cleaner quite an intimate relationship tbh. Like I flee the house when they are there as I feel quite exposed .

For your regular clients, do you feel you know them well?

You seem very prudish for someone that earns money doing this sort of thing, outraged that we would assume you were having sex with the clients or being watched. You sound in denial a bit to me that you are engaged in a form of sex work.

Also you haven't answers my question about the effect on young black males of perpetuating this sexual stereotype? I am genuinely interested in your pov and not having a go as, as you can probably tell, I consider all sex work prostitution and damaging to both the women involved and other women. But we don't hear much about the male side, largely because not many women indulge in it I don't think. But you are seeing the women that do.

I have no questions but on reading the title am now singing 'I was a male stripper in a go go bar! So thanks for that.

@theduchessofspork absolutely - which plays on racist notions of young white women being smaller, tighter etc. all relies on idea that black men are big, powerful, well endowed and that women are there to be taken, controlled and destroyed by sex. Could write essays on the stuff (have done!)

I think sex work as empowering and powerful in itself is a whole can of worms I am uncomfortable with to be honest. There are extremes, very few benefit, it's dangerous, exploitative and wrapping it up as a win because it's a 'choice' etc is really worrying. But to get back to OP, I appreciate what you are saying about women playing out a fantasy in the safety of their own homes.

That is a disgraceful comment. This has absolutely nothing to do with my work whatsoever.

I have very good relationships with my regular clients.

Would it be awkward if you bumped into them outside of work? Have you done that?

All those poor black men being forced to get naked and clean stuff, on demand now, because of the op.
Thank goodness you’ve come along to save the op, another poor black man who obviously doesn’t know his own mind and needs protecting.

Because I don't accept the premise of your question.
As for being prudish, I have repeatedly pointed out that there are boundaries.

Oh no - I mean I’m sure that’s around too - but I mean that there is also the angle of of white women buying sexual services (of whatever sort) from black men as being an act of dominance by the white woman.

This is derailing the thread a bit I know, but I’m pointing it out to you because I think it’s this that it is this angle that is mainly getting people so riled up on this thread.

Anyway back you you OP

I am not being racially degraded. The only racial degradation is being carried out by you with your indignant and self-righteous insistence that you have right to tell a Black man how he should think and behave.

So you don't think thete are negative societal effects on young black men of what you are doing? I have to disagree. And I can damn well assure you that there has been negative effects on young women because of strip clubs, lap dancing bars, hooters and the like.

Only one person (maybe two) is getting riled, primarily because a Black man isn't bowing to her self-appointed status as moral guardian.