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My daughter is transgender- ask me anything

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EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 13:54

Please be kind!

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TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 13/11/2023 14:39

Goatymum · 13/11/2023 14:36

I’ll offer support.
My DD identifies as non/binary - has kept her original name but prefers ‘they’ as a pronoun. She is at uni so I don’t have to use it much & don’t really at home. Dh will never use ‘they’, he thinks it’s a load of BS.
But having said that I don’t really discuss the whole thing with her as it’s annoying for both of us as I come from a different viewpoint and generation, although I support, I don’t affirm. She was 18 when she ‘came out’ and also identifies as bi - although def more towards guys, not sure she’s done more than kiss a girl, maybe not even that.
Questions;
is your daughter in a relationship, do you think being trans impacts romantic relationships
did you see any signs of them being trans growing up - like preferring to play with girls, liking ‘girls’ toys etc.
Whst does your wider family think of the transition?
I see you said she’s autistic, it’s massively common in the autistic community compared to NT community / do you think autism is a factor?
how did you react when she came out?

Your daughter is a female who is trying to fit in.
She not non binary or bisexual.
She's going along with this nonsense because she's surrounded by it.

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:39

No signs of being trans when younger that I could see - but definitely uncomfortable in herself. Yes I suspect autism is a factor. Wider family have been loving and accepting too. Wide range of views on the issue - younger ones are more 'woke' but we all accept each other and would avoid saying anything hurtful in front of her

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EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:31

Regarding the questions about sexual orientation- she feels that a sexual relationship won't be possible for her. This does cause her sadness but it's outweighed for her by her need to identify in the different gender

This is often a trait of autism. Your child desperately needs help with autism. Your child at the end of the day but autism is serious and switching gender won’t alleviate most autistic challenges.

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/autism-and-sex/

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:42

I understand that people have different views and say that affirmative counselling is wrong. The counsellor we chose was neutral rather than affirming - remember my daughter was an adult at the time- it was more a case of helping her make her own decision

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TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 13/11/2023 14:43

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:42

I understand that people have different views and say that affirmative counselling is wrong. The counsellor we chose was neutral rather than affirming - remember my daughter was an adult at the time- it was more a case of helping her make her own decision

Your daughter is a son.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/11/2023 14:43

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:42

I understand that people have different views and say that affirmative counselling is wrong. The counsellor we chose was neutral rather than affirming - remember my daughter was an adult at the time- it was more a case of helping her make her own decision

They weren't neutral if they told you your son is a woman after one appointment.

FFS. This makes me so angry for your child OP, it's so sad that our vulnerable YP are being sold lies like this.

HeinzorChef · 13/11/2023 14:43

We all know human's can't change sex. If OPs son actually think's they are a woman then that is a mental disorder.

I'm not true that's true anymore @lifeturnsonadime.
For the past few years 'we' have been educating youngsters on the importance of gender and that you literally are the gender you identify as, which may or may not match your sexed body.

I think it's all nonsense of course, but I'm an oldie unlike OP's DC.

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:44

My daughter has had plenty of help for her autism. It will never be 'cured' we all have to live with it. I wouldn't wish being transgender on anyone, but I can't deny that acceptance has made her far happier and helped her socially more than anything else ever has.

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IDoNotMoisturise · 13/11/2023 14:45

when he grows up, he will look back on this time in his life and CRINGE

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:45

Maybe, time will tell. But I know her very well and I don't think that will happen

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lifeturnsonadime · 13/11/2023 14:47

HeinzorChef · 13/11/2023 14:43

We all know human's can't change sex. If OPs son actually think's they are a woman then that is a mental disorder.

I'm not true that's true anymore @lifeturnsonadime.
For the past few years 'we' have been educating youngsters on the importance of gender and that you literally are the gender you identify as, which may or may not match your sexed body.

I think it's all nonsense of course, but I'm an oldie unlike OP's DC.

I'm sorry but it IS a mental disorder.

The world has gone mad.

Men who say they are women and wear women's clothes are still men. Mostly they are abusive men because they dgaf about the boundaries they trample on in women's single sex spaces and sports.

There is only one way to be a woman and that is being an human female that has survived to adult hood. Anything else is complete nonsense. I don't believe in gender. I think that gender harms women and girls. I think that genderism promotes the rights of men and is akin to men's rights activism in the way that it harms females.

TerfTalking · 13/11/2023 14:47

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:31

Regarding the questions about sexual orientation- she feels that a sexual relationship won't be possible for her. This does cause her sadness but it's outweighed for her by her need to identify in the different gender

If you say your child “passes” for a female, do they take cross sex hormones which are known for affecting fertility and sexual function. Are you happy that this part of their life will be missing?

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:49

How did I react when she came out? I was shocked, very sad and felt grief for my 'little boy'. I was also very sad to find out that she had been convinced that I would disown her and had been fearful of that for years, largely because of the hostility of the discussion about transgender and sex-based rights. I told her immediately that we will always love her no matter what and we took it from there

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HeinzorChef · 13/11/2023 14:52

Did your DC always want to be a girl from a young child OP, or was it something that was felt or decided on only in later adolescence?
I realise it came as a shock so I'm guessing it wasn't obvious when younger, but has your DC ever opened up about when they started identifying as a girl/woman?

Goatymum · 13/11/2023 14:52

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 13/11/2023 14:39

Your daughter is a female who is trying to fit in.
She not non binary or bisexual.
She's going along with this nonsense because she's surrounded by it.

Thanks for your insight but I wasn’t asking for your opinion, I will answer anyway,
I never said I ‘agreed’ with her non/binary status but if that’s how she wishes to present, and as a 21 year old I have to respect that as long as there’s no meditator surgery involved - then there would be serious discussions.
We are very close and I would hate her gender to come between us, even if I think it’s a nonsense.
tbh when she came out she didn’t really know trans people but has got into
more of that social group now (but also had regular straight friends too!!).
As far as sexuality is concerned I don’t give a toss if bi/straight/gay.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 13/11/2023 14:53

How do you present as non binary?

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:54

What I would say is they most transgender people are not abusive. It's the extremists we hear about and some of them are indeed abusive and unreasonable in wanting to take part in women's sports etc. However, I've also discovered that lots of people are also abusive towards transgender people and many people are abusive to me simply for having a transgender child and attempting a nuanced discussion. Unfortunately many people are abusive to people who don't share their views.

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IdleAnimations · 13/11/2023 14:54

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 13/11/2023 14:53

How do you present as non binary?

insert doing the opposite of sexist stereotypes here such as short hair on a girl or eyeshadow on a boy

It’s sad really. We had far more personal expression with limited labels in the early 2000s and prior.

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:55

She says now she always wanted to be a girl but I didn't notice any sense of discomfort from her until puberty. I'm not happy about the medical treatment and its implications but I can see for myself that it's had a positive impact too and I understand her decision

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HeinzorChef · 13/11/2023 14:56

@lifeturnsonadime
My point is that, we are now in a situation as a society where we are educating kids in this ideology, where they are presented with it as 'truth' from multiple sources.

In these circumstances do you really need to be mentally disordered to buy into what you're been taught?

Catinabeanbag · 13/11/2023 14:56

I don't believe she is female but I know she feels like 'she' so I respect that.
What does it mean to feel like 'she' though? I would take a punt that all the women on this thread have very different experiences of 'feeling like she'.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/11/2023 14:57

Goatymum · 13/11/2023 14:52

Thanks for your insight but I wasn’t asking for your opinion, I will answer anyway,
I never said I ‘agreed’ with her non/binary status but if that’s how she wishes to present, and as a 21 year old I have to respect that as long as there’s no meditator surgery involved - then there would be serious discussions.
We are very close and I would hate her gender to come between us, even if I think it’s a nonsense.
tbh when she came out she didn’t really know trans people but has got into
more of that social group now (but also had regular straight friends too!!).
As far as sexuality is concerned I don’t give a toss if bi/straight/gay.

Goatymum glad your DD isn't looking at surgery but this might happen at some point as radical mastectomies for Non- binary females is becoming a thing amongst my DN's cohort so just keep your eye out for it.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/11/2023 14:57

HeinzorChef · 13/11/2023 14:56

@lifeturnsonadime
My point is that, we are now in a situation as a society where we are educating kids in this ideology, where they are presented with it as 'truth' from multiple sources.

In these circumstances do you really need to be mentally disordered to buy into what you're been taught?

Well we shouldn't be.

It's child abuse to tell children things that are unscientific and harmful to children and women.

EvelynTent · 13/11/2023 14:58

Yes we all feel different about being a 'she' but I've never felt any sense of a problem with that so I don't know how it feels for her. I don't think I will ever understand it to be honest, but I can see that it is real for her

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